First Dyno Complete Take 2
 

Maybe this post should have been at the end of the original one but I thought this might be better?
I had about a 2 hour meeting last night with my engine builder and we went over every detail and all of the questions I had pertaining to my builds and I am happy to report that even though I probably insulted him in an email, he was as nice and professional with me as ever. We now have a plan going forward and I know this upcoming boating season is going to be awesome.
Thanks for everybody's input and help along the way. I have made some extra gage and sensor purchases, figured out some plumbing, and generally have a better understanding of misc. things really based solely on the information from that original post.
Thanks again to a great community of boaters.

That is great to hear!

Glad your builder is working with you. Could have turned into a major downtime.

What's the plan??

So the first thing he and I agreed upon for the plan is Not to talk about the plan. Kinda like "Fight Club". Some may be offended, some won't get it, others will understand.
Rest assured, I'm in good competent hands and I am very comfortable with my builder and the plan.
Looking forward to this season.
I am sure I will have more questions that do NOT pertain to engines. So much to know.
Thanks again.

That is good to hear. We all wish you many hours of trouble free boating.

Jesus **** are you serious?
So you get al this help here and then shut everyone out? Your engine builder fu cked you the first time but now he`s going to be super great and he doesn`t want you share what hes going to do!? LOL
What you should do is go with someone who know what they are doing , not someone that sweet talked you into some secret plan he doesn`t want to be scutinized.
You deserve everything that happens from now on.

PS
If you tell me again that I seem angry you need to put your purse down and grow a set.

You thought the same thing when he built them the first time. If you had been in "good competent hands," this thread would not exist.

You can lead a horse to water...

The new plan will come to light sooner or later in the form of new threads later this year.

Meh....not that big of a deal. You don't owe the forum an explanation even though we all want one LOL!

Hope it all works out.

LOL!!! ICDEDPPL!!! A trifecta!!! Tough talk, personal attack, and an anatomy reference!!! That's Awesome! Next time deliver without sounding like a little girl who didn't get her way :D

When you post a thread this summer asking how to cool down your oil temps, refer back to these threads.

In the previous thread I used the word NAIVETY.

are you the same guy that thought removing weight from the top of the engine was going to help your chine walk ?

super secret probation.

Geez F-2, you know it is. I'm pretty sure I'm the only PQ 290 left on this site. Why in the world would you want to bring that up? It was so bad that even you withdrew your comments....which I appreciated.

good luck with your new builds

Well this escalated quickly.....:party-smiley-004:

Good luck with all of it! Hope he actually does what he needs to and doesn't just print new sheets with numbers on them that you want to see.....

😂 I can understand why people want to know the outcome. Hours of replies to your thread to help you and ultimately steer you to have it fixed, then you shut everyone out.

There shouldn’t be anything Top Secret your builder is doing that couldn’t be discussed. He simply doesn’t want to be scrutinized over his work. If anything, it likely helped saved your engines from turning into 30k grenades.

good luck

Abuser to the abused:
If you stop telling people, I’ll stop. :)

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 

A 500HP big block isn`t rocket science, any halfway decent builder can do that in his sleep.
Talk is cheap results speak fro themselves.

SB,

Bingo. It ain't that the builder doesn't want his "secrets" getting out. We all have our doubts he even has the basics, let alone any real secrets. He wants to preserve his ability to continue, as you put it, abuse his customers. The only reason the builder agreed to take the engines back in was to prevent PQ290 from sh!tting his name all over the interwebs and turning his shop into the tomb it probably should be.

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

Can't you just order one of those from GM? ( Attachment 577544 ) Quite a few folks on here have run the ZZ502 in their boats with good luck. At 10K per motor making 500+hp , and still have your old ones to sell. I have not read all of the threads, but if 500hp was the goal, why would this not be the easiest rout to it, and prob. the cheapest reliable engines at that power level??? No one asked for my 2 cents , but there it is anyway.

Sounds like the dude in Texas with "The magic Room". Complete with automatic weapons and engine secrets worthy of a Medal of Freedom.

Or did it? OP doesnt know enough to say yay or nay on changes, if anything really will be done, and he cant run it by others, who have already alerted him to issues. Recipe for disaster, the way I see it.

Are people really this butthurt that he’s not sharing what his builder says he’s going to do? If 500hp isn’t rocket science then why do we need to know what he’s going to say he’s going to do to get there?

IGetWet,

Nobody cares what the builder is going to do, other than keep screwing people over. That part pisses people off.

The aggravation is rooted in the fact that OP posted, seeking advice, got it from an impressive number of well-heeled sources, most of whom were advising he ditch the dude that screwed the engines up to begin with, only to ignore the best advice he could have hoped for and took the engines back to the guy who screwed them up to begin with. It's like pissing in the wind....

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

^^^^ 100% accurate.
No one cares what he does with his 500hp build.
The middle finger to everyone is fine with me too, just burned all the bridges on here so next time he has a question you can take the time out of your day to help him out I GET WET.

Personally, i like these winter threads…not alot of them at same time, but okay like now. Lol.

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We're all in this together to share knowledge and have a good f'ing time - isn't this why we all participate on OSO? No one needs to be butt-hurt over what the OP has decided to share/not share.

And if I spent a ton of money with someone for a service, I'd be taking it back to them to recitify - as would just about all of the rest of the folks here on OSO. I think a lot of people are making a bigger deal out of this than needs to be.

That's all I'm going to say on this.

I’ve been here a long time.
I make sure to be prepared for winter.


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Thanks philosopher Christy. I’d sit back and laugh if I told someone not to piss into the wind and they went ahead and did anyways

Yea I always make sure I spend lots of my valuable time to help people on the INTERNET! And when I do I always expect a reward.

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….and ironically tighter guide clearances and wall clearances than will survive 😏

IGetWet,

I think you're more torqued over this than any of the rest of us. For sure, the actual engine builders don't seem upset. Not with PQ290, anyway. Just amused, and maybe a bit concerned for his chances for a successful build. I'm certainly not upset. My big concern is with the builder. I've seen guys screw over quality people in model boating because people don't want to throw them under the bus. So they continue being able to screw people over. It kind of ruins it for those of us who actually know what we're doing. This goes just the same in full sized boating as it does in model boating. Or anything else for that matter.

I can tell you this.... As I sit and harbor the fantasy of building a monster 565 from a Dart BigM Tall deck myself, I've called a great number of racing shops to pick their brains on the initial machine work. The second I mentioned that it would be a marine engine, their immediate response was either acknowledging the differences in setup or a marine engine, or respectfully decline, as they'd never done a marine engine. It sounds as if this builder that PQ290 used did neither. He either knew the differences and ignored them, for whatever reason, or didn't understand the difference, and wasn't willing to admit it. Either way, he's still out there, "building" engines.

Again.... Nobody's pissed. Just hate to see somebody dragged down a punji pit rabbit hole with a 3-card monte builder. I really hope things work out for PQ290. I'd also really like to know who built these engines, just so I know to NEVER.....

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991