https://www.cobaltchat.com/viewtopic.php?t=7312

Try That!

Thanks buddy, much appreciated.

I know what you mean about the ten posts.

When I first joined I couldn't post any pics or attachments of anything until I had ten posts.....

Here is one of the pics
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No pic came through..

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Still learning. did that work?

Damn that's hot, looks like Formula is the clear winner for me....

I've been doing a lot of reading, studying and watching a lot of videos on what to to look out for, inspect and ask when buying a boat, and I'm definitely going to get a professional survey done on whatever I get.

I appreciate you sharing this. I am hot to get one but I'm going to wait until late winter, early spring before I buy because I want to be able to have enough money saved up to buy something cash and not have to sweat the price. I don't want to rush into what looks to be a cheap buy, only to get myself into a nightmare.

I know that the really nice examples with low hours that were very well maintained in excellent shape are not going to be cheap, and that's ok.

To me these boats look a lot hotter than many of the newer style boast out today.

Thanks again......

No problem, i just happened to be looking at both of these threads after work and it was a really bizarre coincidence and felt i had to post it up. I have no connection to this boat so i don't know anything about it. The seller did say in the cobalt thread that he wasn't planning on selling it until spring so who knows maybe the timing will work out for you. Anyway good luck! I was 15 in 89" so i really get the attraction to these vintage machines. You mentioned a Seebold Eagle in your original post as one you liked and that 26' Seebold is the one that gets me. If i ever come across a prime example of one i may have to pop for it! Anyway good luck in your search.

Thanks buddy, really appreciate it, and good looking out........

Those survey's are hit and miss, mostly miss. You'd be better off hiring a fiberglass expert and a mechanic to look at it.

Now that you mention that, I have seen some posts saying the same thing.

Something about a surveyor won't be able to detect moister in certain areas unless they have a certain meter.

Anyway, great advice and I will take it much appreciated......

I’ve spent most of my life boating in that class, size and style of boats.

Of your list, I’d second guess the 245 Chris.
Cool looking boat but not built so well.

I sold boats for a dealer in that era and they built some crap.

So styling of ‘89 but not necasarily build quality.

Agreed on the 24’ Formulas.
I really like the older, flat windshield era too.

The Checkmate suggestion is s good one as well.
Some here will poo poo them but I have had great luck w/mine.

Currently have a ‘86 25’ twin OB.

Sold a ‘95 25’ IO boat s couple yrs back was gorgeous.

A very clean one just came up in the high $20’s which is about right.

I never did your budget, which determines everything in this dumb ass hobby!

Another consideration is your home water conditions.

The 265 Seebolds came be made stupid fast but have a wide pad which limits them in the rough.

Brads suggestion of the 236 Rinker is also a great one.
(and way up the scale on bang vs bucks)

We had a large Rinker dealer that sold a ton of them and many w/decent power and never heard of probs.

The fastest were into the low 70’s w/502’s.

Singles in that size range makes a ton of since unless you like pulling motors to do much of anything!
Due to space.

Build quality will surface if/when you add power, and/or play in big water.

There has been a gazillion stories on here where someone bought mid level (quality n performance) boats then tried to make them into a sport boat.

Almost all failed miserably and most had twice in them, than they sold them for.
(after 3 yrs of agony)

Well...there you go! Now THAT is one well-maintained boat. Of course, even one like that can hide major problems.

Vice, where do you plan on doing most of your boating at?

Like many others on here, I have been into boating for now some...45?...years? I have helped many people get into the sport, seen many good and bad boats, have worked on many projects...all that. There are going to be fewer and fewer boats available in your preference. Why? They are just not out there, many have simply rotted away. Not to go down that long list of what-to-look-for insofar as damage goes, but ANYTHING wood can and in most cases WILL have deteriorated on boats of this vintage. As many of the posts to this thread have referenced, this forum abounds with the trials and tribulations of people who have thought they could re-hab an older boat, make it into the boat of their dreams. Some actually have, but at a tremendous cost in time and money. So you are wise to want to find that turn-key boat that will give you many years of pleasure with little expenditure. And there have been some great responses and examples of nice boats available. Good luck with your search, hopefully you will find that perfect boat and post up some pics here soon.

Shame to hear about the build quality of the Chris Craft's because to your point (and I fully agree) they're super sharp looking boats. Damn things looks like they're going 200 mph sitting still.

I live in CT, which is nice because we not only have lots of lakes but we've also got the Long Island sound, and the entire coast. My first year or so in anything I get, will be spent taking it easy and learning "that" boat. Once I get more comfortable I can venture out, but easy does it at first. The last time I operated a boat was back in the early 2000's when I lived in Florida for a minute.

All my buddies on the job had boats and I would routinely help them launch & drive their boats up & down the intercoastal waterways. I even spent a good deal of time on a very cool live-a-board sailboat. I just love being on the water and I've always wanted a boat of my own. I know they're expensive and I know they can be draining but you can't take it with you, and I don't live with a seatbelt on or wrapped in bubble wrap.

I bought an 89 IMP Eleganza 255 a while back that was really beautiful with lots of potential but in the end, a lack of resources, and a lack of good people guiding me (along with some other personal issues) brought that to a screeching halt. Just got done getting rid of her recently and I'm still in mourning.

That's partly why I don't want a twin, you can't believe how difficult it is to find a matching set of drop-in's that aren't beat to crap. Buying new is just ungodly expensive, and everything with twins.....is twice the headache. Twice the amount of things that could go wrong, much more gas, just much more of everything. All of my boat buddies here in CT tell me you don't need a monster power boat for the amount of "real-world" boating you'll realistically be doing.

All you twin guys, please don't pounce and destroy me here, not knocking twin powered boats, just not something I'm comfortable getting into at the moment.

I don't need anything crazy fast, my motorcycles satisfy that itch just fine. I just want something long enough to accommodate the ex's, the kids, and the grandkids (no, not all at once necessarily) on the weekends.

21 to 23 footers are fine but a bit too cramped, 28 footers and above are a bit more than what I need.

I hear what everyone is saying about the Rinker's and I'll keep them in mind, but if I'm being honest, the Formulas, Baha's and Wellcraft's really speak to me, something about their body lines.

Anyway thanks for all the great advice and please keep it coming, there's lots I still need to learn, and you guys are a terrific source of information, it's all much appreciated.

Everything you're saying makes perfect sense, but here's my respectful reply.

I've lost count of all the rare barn finds I've found over the last 40+ years of cars that were decades old still in damn near mint condition, and just like cars, there are those rare, older boats that have also been very well maintained that aren't falling apart or silently rotting away.

Lets be honest, most people buy boats, get in the water, get hammered, beat the ever loving snot out of their boat, and wind up giving them away or selling them for nothing years later because they treated them so badly.

But you also have the people that really did pay attention to everything the salesman told them when they bought it, and treated their boats really well and maintained them even better.

They always washed them down after each use, waxed them, winterized & fogged the engine/s properly, covered them whenever not in use, and just in general didn't treat them like the forgotten German Shepard tied to the tree out back.

I know they're rare, but I do see those types of ads about boats, and I know there are some really well preserved ones out there, even if only a small handful.

Yes, water is going to do what water does, but it's not impossible to find something nice, and don't forget about all the boats that have already been refurbished by people, thus saving you/me from having to do it.

Here's a few ideas.

https://www.wavetowave.com/home/2018...m-the-nineties

Thanks a million, seriously, that's a great resource and there are lots of wicked cool boats listed in there....