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iliveonanisland 11-28-2023 09:15 PM

Hull damage from big waves
 
I was wondering how many of you guys are getting hull damage from running a heavily loaded boat in big waves and what is the best way to prevent hull damage thanks in advance for any info.

Brad Zastrow 11-29-2023 10:01 AM

Is this a serious question?
1: Get a bigger boat.
2: Don't go in rough water.

William Diggens 11-29-2023 10:35 AM

Ratman, post some pictures of damaged areas. I've had some Parasail boat that would develop cracks over time in certain areas. They would be subject to running 8hrs-9hrs a day, 7 days a week, 15kts-20kts, 2ft-3ft seas.
Do you have access to inside of hull in bad areas? Could be easy as glassing in some herringbones in high stress areas. Good luck!!!
Parasail 941

F-2 Speedy 11-29-2023 11:10 AM

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tlark 11-29-2023 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 4885937)
Is this a serious question?
1: Get a bigger boat.
2: Don't go in rough water.

3) Stay away from LOTO on any given weekend unless you have experience !!

Knot 4 Me 11-29-2023 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by tlark (Post 4885950)
3) Stay away from LOTO on any given weekend unless you have experience !!

LOTO? Pffft! Mead!!

TYPHOON 11-29-2023 01:48 PM

Even purpose-built race boats get body damage. What you see watching an offshore race is not what you can do in most factory rigged boats. Bigger is normally better. Most factory boats don't have the deck glassed to the hull or thru hull nuts and bolts. The best way to destroy a boat is go offshore and jump waves..

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 05:57 PM

Guys the answer I was actually looking for was to slow down. I have two 42’ 40 person passenger boats. One is brand new and just started running about a week ago. A buddy of mine that owned a large yacht repair biz in so fl was staying at my island hotel. He rode my boat back to Cartagena it’s normally 1:45 min trip each way. Anyway it was windy AF and just before you get to Cartagena there is an area that has some serious waves. I was in our old boat a couple months ago (which is currently in the marina having a bunch of hull repairs made. The captain pounded the boat through that area so when we got to Cartagena and as soon as the passengers all left I call him and the mate aside and ripped his azz for treating our equipment like that. A few days later I rode the boat back to the island and he slowed way down from 30mph normal cruise speed to low 20s and it was a nice smooth ride. When we reached the island I took him aside and told him great job that is how we want you to run the boats and treat our equipment. Well the trip my my buddy was a ride from hell. To start with they let 14 passenger sit in the front on the starboard side and had four passengers in the port rear so with the boat sitting at the dock it was listing severely to starboard. Then he ran the snot out of it and was belly flopping it on the waves my buddy could feel the hull twisting and the stringers hating life. I was livid. We have a young guy that worked for the hotel for six years that is a sharp guy very loyal and honest which are rare qualities in Colombia. My partner and I made him part owner of the boat biz because we like and trust him but he has no marine exp or much mechanical aptitude or know how. But thats ok as I have it in spades Anyway I told him what happened he talked for captain and the captain tried to justify that ride. Nope not ok. So the guy took the captains side and said one of the tranq it easy boats was just in the marina for 25k dollars in hull repairs as in he thinks that ok. I’m like wtf. I’ve seen the captain for tranq it easy pass our boat in the rough area beating the living crap out of the boat and passenger F that. I just had a talk with the captain and told him he needs to slow down and if it’s extremely rough to change course so he runs the big waves on a 45 degree angle to not pound the boat thru them. I think I will install GoPro cameras to keep him honest. We want as few blown lower units and no hull damage or lawsuits as that would suck all the profit out of the business.

IGetWet 11-29-2023 06:29 PM

So you asked a question but already knew the answer you wanted to hear??

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4885945)
RM......no fat chicks......:lolhit:

never. My gf is a super spinner at 37kg. She turns 21 this week. Go ahead say it. I’m a dirty old man lmao.

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4885984)
So you asked a question but already knew the answer you wanted to hear??

wanted to show this thread to the young guy running my boat transport company.

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by William Diggens (Post 4885941)
Ratman, post some pictures of damaged areas. I've had some Parasail boat that would develop cracks over time in certain areas. They would be subject to running 8hrs-9hrs a day, 7 days a week, 15kts-20kts, 2ft-3ft seas.
Do you have access to inside of hull in bad areas? Could be easy as glassing in some herringbones in high stress areas. Good luck!!!
Parasail 941

both our boat have an upper deck where the captain and mate sit while running the boat. There is an insane amount of floating debris here so it gives them a much better view of what’s in front of the boat and two extra seats for clients. The left front leg has beaten the crap out of the side of the boat and not sure how the marina intends to make a repair that will hold up long term we will see

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4885984)
So you asked a question but already knew the answer you wanted to hear??

the answer I was looking for was to slow the f down lol.

underpsi68 11-29-2023 09:28 PM

Didn't you always answer threads here "get an Apache"? :party-smiley-004:

iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4885994)
Didn't you always answer threads here "get an Apache"? :party-smiley-004:

prolly lol. but you can’t fit 42 idiots on an Apache.
I wanted to buy allez vite when it was up for sale but couldn’t get a property sold before someone stopped up and boat allez Vite that’s one of my favs. That boat is really set up well and runs hard.


iliveonanisland 11-29-2023 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4885994)
Didn't you always answer threads here "get an Apache"? :party-smiley-004:

I started one thread saying I was looking for a little 41 Apache runabout lol. And another as a blow boater wanting to give the power boat thing a try and thought I should start out with a 41 Apache lmao.

JPEROG 11-29-2023 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4885996)
prolly lol. but you can’t fit 42 idiots on an Apache.
I wanted to buy allez vite when it was up for sale but couldn’t get a property sold before someone stopped up and boat allez Vite that’s one of my favs. That boat is really set up well and runs hard.


I agree, he used to run that boat in West Michigan during the summer and it was a dream to own someday.

Joe

f_inscreenname 11-29-2023 11:54 PM

My 1967 Nova 24 race boat has been kicking around for 56 years and no hull damage. 😎

iliveonanisland 12-01-2023 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4886002)
My 1967 Nova 24 race boat has been kicking around for 56 years and no hull damage. 😎

the boats they make in Colombia are crap. Not much fiberglass cloth. Mostly mat. They work on them 8 hours a day so the things are piece meal. They are also 18 degree hulls the trim gets are crap and not good wood inside the transom. We had a 30 foot boat built for our Tolu to the island route and in two year the transom wood is being replaced as is soggy crap now. But a 42 passenger boat with all the seating the upper deck for the captain and mate are under 100 k with no power so you get what you pay for. There are no better options and I don’t think they have a handle on rigging I/O boats. I wanted to build one with diesels and surface drives like simplicity drives they flat out refused domain nooe outboard which the pair of 300 Yamahas we run like the lower units way to often
we will finish construction some time early next year. I am looking at the oxe 200s with a blower belt to drive the prop shaft no gears to blow up. The 200s have a bmw inline 4cyl turbo diesel which makes a little more torque than our Yamahas and burn 60% less fuel I have an issue with one of our captains running g the boat to hard in the small area right out side Cartagena on the way to the island that has some big waves. I want him to slow down and baby the boat yhrough there on really rough days.

iliveonanisland 12-01-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4886002)
My 1967 Nova 24 race boat has been kicking around for 56 years and no hull damage. 😎

your boat is a super well built resin bucket brother. They last forever

F-2 Speedy 12-02-2023 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4885988)
never. My gf is a super spinner at 37kg. She turns 21 this week. Go ahead say it. I’m a dirty old man lmao.

We need pics or it didnt happen......:D.....you ever finish the Anglia ?

iliveonanisland 12-02-2023 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4886123)
We need pics or it didnt happen......:D.....you ever finish the Anglia ?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0a5571f0c3.png

iliveonanisland 12-02-2023 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4886123)
We need pics or it didnt happen......:D.....you ever finish the Anglia ?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...11d714e76f.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d2eec4e06b.png
I just get back from buying the hoses and fittings to finish plumbing my engine and transmission coolers it was so hard to squeeze the engine and cooling stuff under the hood as it’s so narrow at the front. Should have my driveshaft next week. Then I send it to the interior shop. I will install the wheelie bars when it’s in the alignment rack as my garage floor isn’t prefect my level. It’s been a fun project. I always wanted to chop and top but what a ton of work that was lol. My 67 protouring Camaro goes to a shop in Florida in two weeks to install the DSE 4 link and my 12 bolt. They will also install my stainless 3.5” exhaust system then will start the process to import it next year. It’s got an 800hp 540 shafiroff pump gas hyd roller motor t56 6 spd and dual disc ceramic clutch 3.73 gears in the 12bolt and full Detroit speed chassis kit. I will scare the piss out of the locals with that and the Anglia lol.no DOT here so I run slicks on everything including my supermotard no traffic cops either. It’s like utopia

iliveonanisland 12-02-2023 03:15 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...28c1efc80.jpeg
A lot of stuff in a little space. I have 1/4” of clearance to the sheetmetal or less. But got er done lol

F-2 Speedy 12-02-2023 03:38 PM

Cool luv the Zoomies

the deep 12-02-2023 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4886130)

Ratman speakin' truth! :cool-smiley-011:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c2f0747136.jpg

offshoredrillin 12-03-2023 04:10 AM

Dr Sparky approved lol

iliveonanisland 12-03-2023 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4886149)
Dr Sparky approved lol

hey brother how you been. Shiit it’s been a long time. Hey man any time you want to come down for a weekend and check out my island let me know. I’ll hook you up just get your ass to Cartagena I’ll take care of the rest. The place is da biggity bomb https://instagram.com/hotelislamucur...VhN2U2NjQ0Yg==.

iliveonanisland 12-03-2023 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4886149)
Dr Sparky approved lol

you still talk to Stecz & tantrum. Have seen or heard from those guys in too long lol. Did they go prison gay lmao

offshoredrillin 12-03-2023 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4886154)
you still talk to Stecz & tantrum. Have seen or heard from those guys in too long lol. Did they go prison gay lmao

id love to next year, wrapping up selling the businesses and will be retiring around march. actually looking at a winter place in Belize. talk to stecz every once in while, JC is working at Shaffiroff... my cell is 410-746-002zero

Powerquest230 12-03-2023 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4885980)
Guys the answer I was actually looking for was to slow down. I have two 42’ 40 person passenger boats. One is brand new and just started running about a week ago. A buddy of mine that owned a large yacht repair biz in so fl was staying at my island hotel. He rode my boat back to Cartagena it’s normally 1:45 min trip each way. Anyway it was windy AF and just before you get to Cartagena there is an area that has some serious waves. I was in our old boat a couple months ago (which is currently in the marina having a bunch of hull repairs made. The captain pounded the boat through that area so when we got to Cartagena and as soon as the passengers all left I call him and the mate aside and ripped his azz for treating our equipment like that. A few days later I rode the boat back to the island and he slowed way down from 30mph normal cruise speed to low 20s and it was a nice smooth ride. When we reached the island I took him aside and told him great job that is how we want you to run the boats and treat our equipment. Well the trip my my buddy was a ride from hell. To start with they let 14 passenger sit in the front on the starboard side and had four passengers in the port rear so with the boat sitting at the dock it was listing severely to starboard. Then he ran the snot out of it and was belly flopping it on the waves my buddy could feel the hull twisting and the stringers hating life. I was livid. We have a young guy that worked for the hotel for six years that is a sharp guy very loyal and honest which are rare qualities in Colombia. My partner and I made him part owner of the boat biz because we like and trust him but he has no marine exp or much mechanical aptitude or know how. But thats ok as I have it in spades Anyway I told him what happened he talked for captain and the captain tried to justify that ride. Nope not ok. So the guy took the captains side and said one of the tranq it easy boats was just in the marina for 25k dollars in hull repairs as in he thinks that ok. I’m like wtf. I’ve seen the captain for tranq it easy pass our boat in the rough area beating the living crap out of the boat and passenger F that. I just had a talk with the captain and told him he needs to slow down and if it’s extremely rough to change course so he runs the big waves on a 45 degree angle to not pound the boat thru them. I think I will install GoPro cameras to keep him honest. We want as few blown lower units and no hull damage or lawsuits as that would suck all the profit out of the business.

Hmmmph, a captain that wouldn’t address balancing the light load of passengers for their benefit, and then runs the boat in a manner hard on your customers and equipment? I’d be thinking pretty hard about adding “former” to his job title.

iliveonanisland 12-04-2023 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Powerquest230 (Post 4886177)
Hmmmph, a captain that wouldn’t address balancing the light load of passengers for their benefit, and then runs the boat in a manner hard on your customers and equipment? I’d be thinking pretty hard about adding “former” to his job title.

I think that is the solución as well. He was trying to justify his running the boat like that. Thinking I don’t know what’s up. Nope too much invested in this business to let a hot shot beat up our equipment and cost us money. He has no skin in the game. That’s the problem

iliveonanisland 12-04-2023 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4886133)
Cool luv the Zoomies

thanks bro. It was a hell of a lot more work to build them than I thought it would be, due to the fact the car is so short. The tubing had to run down and aft due to the tire being in the way of running them straight out like a funny car. This car scratches 5 things off my bucket list. 1 My first Blower car, 2 chopping a car, 3 a car that will wheelie on the street it’s 6’6” from the rear of the engine block to the rear axle tube and will prolly weigh 2400 lbs I’m running wheelie bars, 4 zoomies. 5 building a complete chassis from scratch. Who know it might even drive straight lol.

iliveonanisland 12-04-2023 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4886138)
Ratman speakin' truth! :cool-smiley-011:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c2f0747136.jpg

hell yeah lying doesn’t get you very far lol. She is a cool chica too. Laid back and funny af

iliveonanisland 12-04-2023 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4886149)
Dr Sparky approved lol

always. So many hotties to choose from here in medellin lol. It’s like shooting fish in a bucket

iliveonanisland 12-04-2023 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4886156)
id love to next year, wrapping up selling the businesses and will be retiring around march. actually looking at a winter place in Belize. talk to stecz every once in while, JC is working at Shaffiroff... my cell is 410-746-002zero

hey bro you use WhatsApp? It’s huge here in Colombia. It’s a great messaging app you can send photos and vids make calls everything is encrypted end to end. Let me know. If not I’ll give you a regular call. Glad you’re getting ready to retire. Good luck with the sale of your biz brother

offshoredrillin 12-04-2023 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by iliveonanisland (Post 4886218)
hey bro you use WhatsApp? It’s huge here in Colombia. It’s a great messaging app you can send photos and vids make calls everything is encrypted end to end. Let me know. If not I’ll give you a regular call. Glad you’re getting ready to retire. Good luck with the sale of your biz brother

thanks daddio, all 3 are sold, just a matter for the attorneys. i dont use any of those apps, too much going on with properties and stuff to have that kind of stuff on my phones or computers. too much hacking etc, just call or text me, the new place will have a VPN so I can do things with Belize and the islands while being secure.

iliveonanisland 12-05-2023 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4886156)
id love to next year, wrapping up selling the businesses and will be retiring around march. actually looking at a winter place in Belize. talk to stecz every once in while, JC is working at Shaffiroff... my cell is 410-746-002zero

wow just saw JC is working at shaffiroff. I have one of their 800hp 540s in my pro touring 67 Camaro. That’s awesome. Good for him.

frickstyle 12-06-2023 11:45 AM

ilive -

Are you on Tierra Bomba? Is it friendly (safe) for USA persons to visit there? Worth it? How's the fishing and diving?

iliveonanisland 12-06-2023 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4886339)
ilive -

Are you on Tierra Bomba? Is it friendly (safe) for USA persons to visit there? Worth it? How's the fishing and diving?

it’s safe but it’s kind of a dump. I don’t care much for Cartagena and the beaches islands in the area. There are hucksters selling crap and older fat girls trying to give awful massages on the beach. Not that many good restaurants either as there is a constant influx of tourists that keep crappy restaurants in business and they often over charge gringos drastically. Not very good water clarity in that area and not much good fishing as in bill fishing. Cartagena is a fairly decent place for hookers tho that its redeeming quality lol but Medellin is much better by 10 fold lol. Btw I live in Medellin. lol. My island isla Múcura is about 1:45 mins in a slow 30mph passenger boat. It like the Bahamas . Beautiful white sand beaches and crystal clear blue waters. It’s a unique area. Cartagena beaches are brown sand and kind of ugly imo. Most of Cartagena is a dump. Boca grande is the big tourist area with some nice hotels but doesn’t have much else going for it. The peso is weak against the dollar so things are very inexpensive here now due to the exchange rate. if you want to party Medellin is the place and blow is 3-4 dollars a gram lol.lots of good clubs here and some great restaurants also. i live in laureles which was just voted the coolest neighborhood in the world! my partner and i are going to build a 6 story 32 apt airbnb rental starting summer next year.


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