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PROP STAR 12-01-2023 10:46 AM

Dry Sump Drive # 6 question
 
Dry Sump Drive # 6 question what fluid are you using ?? been using Torco MTF for years and the local High Perf speed shop is no longer a torco dealer ..thanks

Madman7 12-01-2023 02:44 PM

I've only used Mercury Racing Gear Lube.

From memory roughly $40 a quart, x 2 gallons = $320 twice a season. Small price to pay for having fun :drink:

Brad Zastrow 12-01-2023 06:39 PM

Dry sump sixes do not use Merc racing lube 80w90W.. It also does not use 2 gal, I assume that is for an older wet sump 6. The Torco MTF can be bought online.

mike38scarab 12-01-2023 08:29 PM

I think he is referring to having twins. ~Four quarts per drive to refill with Mercury Racing
85w90 gear lube. Which is what is currently called for. Of which some “stealers” are charging $53.80 per quart. Time to find an alternate that is reasonably priced because
no way is a quart of gear lube worth that price. Just as a Mercury Racing oil filter is just a Wix 51222R filter without being branded a Mercury part, a quart of 85w90 gear lube is made by someone else. Just my line in the sand. And it’s more than just 8 quarts when you factor in Nxt transmissions, and bearing carriers.

IGetWet 12-02-2023 06:21 AM

Different drives, imco scx-4s, and different lube but I noticed a change in color around 2021 in the Torco RTF, from a deep blue to a green color. Shortly after I lost both drives. Rebuild and still running Torco RTF because that’s what imco swore by, but then they had started making their own lube… This past season noticed drives weren’t shifting good. Pulled drives and found black tarry substance on every surface! Long story short, no longer using junk Torco! Amsoil severe gear.

offshoredrillin 12-02-2023 06:41 AM

check out the new Rev-X high shock, you wont be disappointed...

ICDEDPPL 12-02-2023 09:10 AM

I`ve tried alot of gear lubes but I always come back to Amsoil severe gear. Seems to hold up best with the least amount of fuzz on the magnets.
Personally I wouldn`t mess up any oil composition with what looks like the new version of Slick50.


Helmwurst 12-02-2023 09:14 AM

Schaffer gear oil..Talked to a few local guys that run those drives, they run the stuff, drain it, inspect it and sometimes put it right back in!
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Brad Zastrow 12-02-2023 01:32 PM

Are you guys talking about Number 6 dry sump drives? You are using gear lube in a dry sump 6? Torco MTF is like water and gear lube is like molasses. I believe Torco MTF is what Mercury recommends. Do what you want. Blowing an expensive drive is a shame. There is a small filter in the nose of the drive. I am not sure gear lube would even go through the filter. I suggest you talk to dealer who actually knows. TNT or Performance Boat Center for example.

ICDEDPPL 12-02-2023 07:11 PM

Mine are 5 gallons each and wet .. I thought dry 6`s used trans oil.

bencini231 12-02-2023 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4886110)
Different drives, imco scx-4s, and different lube but I noticed a change in color around 2021 in the Torco RTF, from a deep blue to a green color. Shortly after I lost both drives. Rebuild and still running Torco RTF because that’s what imco swore by, but then they had started making their own lube… This past season noticed drives weren’t shifting good. Pulled drives and found black tarry substance on every surface! Long story short, no longer using junk Torco! Amsoil severe gear.

Not to derail this subject on #6's, but its crazy how Imco has changed thier minds on using Torco now. Suddenly last year they have their own line of Imco oil and recommend the Mercury oil if Imco is not available. The Imco stuff is way different than the Torco was and cheaper to buy as well,

SB 12-02-2023 08:00 PM

I don’t have #6 drives, but i googled :) the question and found a a Merc service bulletin on draining/filling VI dry sump drives:
https://holesbaymarine.co.uk/catalog...5DUCNCBFZYGIZQ

Brad Zastrow 12-03-2023 02:25 PM

I have owned a cat with wet sump sixes and two cats with dry sump sixes. Torco MTF is what is used on dry sump 6's. It is a manual transmission oil and it is what Mother Mercury says to use. Summit Racing sells it. Buy a 5 gal pail for $220.

oceanoutlaw 12-03-2023 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 4886173)
I have owned a cat with wet sump sixes and two cats with dry sump sixes. Torco MTF is what is used on dry sump 6's. It is a manual transmission oil and it is what Mother Mercury says to use. Summit Racing sells it. Buy a 5 gal pail for $220.

Mercury issued a service bulletin in 2013 stating their new racing gear oil replaces the Torco MTF. It's used in all their racing gearcases/outdrives including dry sumps. The Torco is still a great oil and can still be used.

Madman7 12-04-2023 09:49 AM

^^ This


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ICDEDPPL 12-04-2023 10:28 AM

The green mercury stuff would turn real thin and come out like water in my experience, hopefully the new stuff is better .

bigfarmer 12-04-2023 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by PROP STAR (Post 4886081)
Dry Sump Drive # 6 question what fluid are you using ?? been using Torco MTF for years and the local High Perf speed shop is no longer a torco dealer ..thanks

Mercurys new 85w90, its gold/ brown in color. Mine comes out looking the same as it went in every oil change.. good stuff!

Diamond Dave 12-04-2023 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Madman7 (Post 4886204)

This.

I have not used in my dry sumps yet but I have heard good things about it. That is until they change suppliers in the quest for more profit as always...

I have used the Amsoil 75w-90 marine gear lube in them the last couple of years from my old boat to get rid of it and zero issues looks the same coming out as it did going in. Going forward I will use the Merc racing stuff so the weight matches.


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