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surfacetension 12-03-2002 08:13 AM

Honest boat tests
 
I get Hot Boat and powerboat and it seems to me that They never say anything Bad about any thing??? They use words like " The headroom in the cabin was acceptable???" Or "The holeshot was within reason" I find myself reading it 3 or 4 times to try and get a feel for how it really was. I know they have to keep advertisers happy BUT where can I go to see like a comsumer report on Boats????:confused: :rolleyes: :D

Brad Perry 12-03-2002 08:25 AM

I have seen powerboat have a less than wonderful review of an awesome cat. That is the only time I saw it. They did have several compaints about the dodge truck they recently reviewed. They sounded all BS to me, but I own one... Later in a subsiquent issue, they compared a certain vehicles ride as "even better than the supple ride of the dodge". In the original article, they bashed the ride. :confused: :confused: Not too consistent or unbiased. They are all trying to keep advertisers happy at our expense. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Read between the lines.

Brad Perry 12-03-2002 08:27 AM

Since Bob Teague drives almost all of the boats, try emailing him or calling for the straight shoot on a specific boat..

Raypanic 12-03-2002 08:46 AM

Magazines don't make any money on bad reviews! Only some one like consumer reports would give an accurate review. But these are boats not toasters. The best tester is yourself and possibly a friend that has experience. The magazines only seem to stress the positive and not mention the negatives. IMO

Indy 12-03-2002 10:07 AM

I'm going to play the devil's advocate here.

Many people on this board look for Powerboat, Family, Hot Boat, etc. to be critical and "get tough" on their boat reviews. I read in this forum all the time how money or advertising dollars create the reviews. I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that Bob Teague has more experience than most of the members here, and at the very least, has driven many more brands of boats than anybody here. I also don't think that he would steer somebody wrong in a review just because magazine $$ are at stake. He has too much at stake himself to be caught in distorting the facts in one of his reviews.

With that being said, I think the reason that you don't see Pantera, Nordic, Powerquest, DCB, Cigarette, Hustler, Progression, Eliminator, Kryptonite, (just add the many other brands) etc. get bad reviews is because they are all well built boats, just different. Let's face it, if the mags were reviewing the types of boats that the general public was buying (half the cost of these fine offshore boats) the reviews would be scary. Instead, the articles point out features such as freeboard, handling, amenities, configuration, hull, lay-up, structure, rigging, speed, etc. that a buyer wants to know in determining if that particular boat fits their needs. Although I love some brands, they don't fit my style of boating and I can read about them in the mags and eliminate them without ever seeing them. That way I'll spend my time looking at those that meet my requirements.

Most of these offshore boats are fine machines, some better than others, but all much better than the average boat. To find a clunker in this high end market would be unusual. It would be foolish to purchase a boat soley based upon a magazine article, but it's a good place to start. I think the magazines to a pretty good job.

surfacetension 12-03-2002 10:10 AM

SOOOO It is all Bul$h-T well I know you have to check it out for yourself BUT , I would like some Unbiased opinions, If you talk to guy,s who own them they usually don,t pick out the bad, It seems to me that the best source of honest info is Previous owners. It,s still nice to look at the pictures( Especialy Hot Boat":rolleyes: :D ;) :p

Brad Perry 12-03-2002 10:19 AM

I agree with indy when it comes to Bob, and also that most of the boats are high quality to start with. However, I question how much real input Bob has on the whole article. I'll leave it at that. :D

Reckless32 12-03-2002 10:33 AM

Indy I agree wholeheartedly. The reason I think you won't see a bad review is that the review has to appeal to many diffrent kind of boaters. Like headroom for instance. Not everyone gives a crasp about excessive headroom in the cuddy. Not everyone will be spending much time down there except in the T#TS-UP position.

When driving a Pantera, Powerquest, Sunsation, Baja, Donzi, or what-have-you, a guy like Teague has to rate it from a person's perspective that would be interested in the styling and particular amenities. Hence no real complaints unless the hull or hardware is really cheap in contruction, not just to the biased eye.

That being said, I have seen little quips within articles to touch on generic things that stand out negatively and similar quips on things that stand out very positively. You just have to read carefully and not just skim over them....

Sydwayz 12-03-2002 11:40 AM

Honest!? I just read the title to this post and started laughing.

RickerTX 12-03-2002 02:39 PM

I'm with Sydwayz. Never met a boat salesman that didn't love "everything"about the boat he was selling. Your own instincts,as well as your friends,will help you more.

HyperBaja 12-03-2002 02:42 PM

Ive been told by a certain individual to remain nameless.


that the article of Vortec engines in Poker Runs america was not a good to truth article. the reason it was so nice is because vortec is a sponsor of the mag.

just word on the street......

RickerTX 12-03-2002 03:20 PM

hearsay......unless sources are named

hot water 12-03-2002 04:16 PM

If you want to read the real Bob Teague go to Teague on Tech. If you want to read an article that contains some of Bobs input and input from Mat, edited by Brett Becker read the boat reviews.

The only publication that I know of that is very much like consumer reports is called POWERBOAT Reports. This publication puts all marine products from Bow Lights to Sun Screens to the test. Every month they rate one boat, and have no problem telling like it is. They have no Advertisers.

Go to.. www.powerboat-reports.com

I do not believe there is a connection between them and POWERBOAT Magazine

Jana 12-03-2002 04:27 PM

Powerboat Reports is not (that I know of) connected with Powerboat Mag. They do give good tests and reviews of equipment, but rarely review performance boats. Too bad, I'd love to see their "Pros and Cons" section for some of our favorite builders.

Sean 12-03-2002 04:45 PM

I just want to point out that a review of the 27 Kryptonite in 2000 was pretty good when they(Powerboat Mag) did the F-1 shootout...and Kryptonite does not advertise in Powerboat...

Furthermore, Bob Teague does not own the magazine and I think that Mr. Nordskog probably has final say on the boat tests...but that is just a guess :)

ragtop409 12-03-2002 05:55 PM

Did any body read the copy of Hot Boat May 2002 were this was discused. They said they would give us the info on a boat that was CRAP. It said we would read about them in upcoming issues. Did any one see or read it. I never did find or figure out witch boats Kevin Spaise was talking about? Charlie


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