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open87 03-26-2024 07:42 AM

Bridge collapse in Maryland
 
Prayers out to those that lost their lives.




Wildman_grafix 03-26-2024 07:48 AM

That is a mess. At least it wasn't rush hour.
RIP

waybomb 03-26-2024 08:22 AM

Video of ship losing power, hitting bridge, and bridge collapse

rak rua 03-26-2024 08:30 AM

It had to be mechanical issues, power loss/total steering failure. No qualified captain could do that without major issues.

Hoping for the successful rescue of all those effected.

Indy 03-26-2024 08:33 AM

About a mile from my grandmother's house, been over it many times.
My thoughts to those who lost their lives.

madflavors26 03-26-2024 08:35 AM

From what i've read online it was a power loss.

1Zoom 03-26-2024 09:30 AM

Hopefully many will have been rescued. This will be a mess for quite a while, land traffic, waterway traffic, debris in the water as well as chemicals. How quickly things can change. Thoughts and prayers to all that were involved.

Sydwayz 03-26-2024 09:37 AM

This is a timeline of what happened with the power losses, recovery, and the crash.
They were able to signal a mayday, and clear the bridge of traffic. However, there was a Construction/Pothole crew on the bridge, and those appear to be most of the victims.


offshoredrillin 03-26-2024 11:41 AM

once they radioed in the mayday for the power loss and loss of steering they were able to shut down traffic on the bridge... these pics are from a member of the CBPBA.. not sure who took them.. this is literally about 150 yds from where francis scott key was while writing the star spangled banner. all ships are piloted out by a bay pilot, and this is about a mile or so from where the other ship was grounded a couple years back. unfortunately there was a construction crew on the bridge.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5c38fcbd2f.jpg
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offshoredrillin 03-26-2024 11:55 AM

This bouy is where FSK was while the British were shelling fort mchenry in the backround, and how the bridge was a day ago..
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ed64a993a7.jpg

Brad Christy 03-26-2024 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4893981)
This is a timeline of what happened with the power losses, recovery, and the crash.
They were able to signal a mayday, and clear the bridge of traffic. However, there was a Construction/Pothole crew on the bridge, and those appear to be most of the victims.

Really makes one wonder why the working crew was still on the bridge. If they had time to get traffic blocked, surely they could have signaled to the crew to get the Hell off the bridge...?

Thanks. Brad.

Tartilla 03-26-2024 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4893975)
It had to be mechanical issues, power loss/total steering failure. No qualified captain could do that without major issues.

Hoping for the successful rescue of all those effected.

There would have been a local Pilot that would have been onboard, no?

Steering systems should have double redundancy.

Also heard folks speak to tug assisted navigation as an option with sensitive waterways.
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RIP the workers on the bridge, and the 7 cars in the water.


Tartilla 03-26-2024 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4893989)
Really makes one wonder why the working crew was still on the bridge. If they had time to get traffic blocked, surely they could have signaled to the crew to get the Hell off the bridge...?

Thanks. Brad.

Communicating an emergency and acting out a quick plan to move off the bridge would have taken time. Did they even have a vehicle or were they all on foot? Rough go all around.

offshoredrillin 03-26-2024 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4893990)
There would have been a local Pilot that would have been onboard, no?

Steering systems should have double redundancy.

Also heard folks speak to tug assisted navigation as an option with sensitive waterways.
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RIP the workers on the bridge, and the 7 cars in the water.

all ships leaving the port have bay pilots, they are rquired well below the chesapeak bay bridge and up the top in the C&D canal. in one of the vids you can see where it lost all power, and even see the smoke from trying to reverse, but to no avail.

tlark 03-26-2024 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4893989)
Really makes one wonder why the working crew was still on the bridge. If they had time to get traffic blocked, surely they could have signaled to the crew to get the Hell off the bridge...?

Thanks. Brad.

breakdown in communications in this case is without excuss, those are city or state road crews up there

CheckmateScarab 03-26-2024 01:16 PM

There was only a 4 minute warning between when the ship signalled and when it collided - even if crews left that same second it's not a lot of time to make it several thousand feet. Feel terrible for everyone in this mess

Wildman_grafix 03-26-2024 01:42 PM

How the heck could they have even stopped traffic? I watched and as others said it was very little time. The bridge is 1.6 miles long, no chance on foot and very little if in a vehicle and need to turn around.

You can see in one video some of the work trucks falling into the water RIP,

Man, one minute you are doing your job the next,,,,,,,,,,,horrible.

36Tango 03-26-2024 04:13 PM

Prayers out to all of the families affected.

That said, can you imagine calling your insurance company with this claim? I cannot imagine the cost of building a new bridge.

bajaman 03-26-2024 04:57 PM

It makes one think that after this, and the Sunshine Highway Bridge in Florida back in 1980, if they will consider building some sort of safety piers AHEAD of the abutments for these bridges, in both travel directions? These bridges don't stand a chance against these massive ships.

tlark 03-26-2024 05:52 PM


Been following this guy for awhile, knows his stuff Pretty good info including ship tracking from port into channel. Breakdown of navigation as well

compedgemarine 03-26-2024 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by bajaman (Post 4894025)
It makes one think that after this, and the Sunshine Highway Bridge in Florida back in 1980, if they will consider building some sort of safety piers AHEAD of the abutments for these bridges, in both travel directions? These bridges don't stand a chance against these massive ships.

the Skyway bridge does have HUGE buffer piers on both sides of the uprights. they were put in with the rebuilding of it after it was hit. my question is after the trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending why do all the major bridges not have the same things.

105Fountain 03-27-2024 08:51 AM

Was the captain American???

Interceptor 03-27-2024 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by 105Fountain (Post 4894077)
Was the captain American???

No but the pilot is.

VetteLT193 03-27-2024 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 4894029)
the Skyway bridge does have HUGE buffer piers on both sides of the uprights. they were put in with the rebuilding of it after it was hit. my question is after the trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending why do all the major bridges not have the same things.

I have wondered the same thing since then. They learned and only applied the new concept to one freaking bridge

Wildman_grafix 03-27-2024 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by VetteLT193 (Post 4894084)
I have wondered the same thing since then. They learned and only applied the new concept to one freaking bridge

The reports on US infrastructure is amazing bad, just think of how many places are wanting that money. I forget how much money and time we really need.

badmonkey 03-27-2024 11:50 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7a2c59775.jpeg
I took this photo from our marina yesterday. We are 2-3 miles south of the Key Bridge ….the view will never be the same. RIP to all those that perished in this tragedy

Awaken 03-27-2024 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 4894029)
the Skyway bridge does have HUGE buffer piers on both sides of the uprights. they were put in with the rebuilding of it after it was hit. my question is after the trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending why do all the major bridges not have the same things.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f3d6f7984e.jpg


There are four large cement "bumpers" at the Key Bridge. One on each side of the major support upright structure. If you watch the slo mo video, it actually went passed the bumper and then made a hard right turn to hit the structure.

ICDEDPPL 03-27-2024 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by compedgemarine (Post 4894029)
the Skyway bridge does have HUGE buffer piers on both sides of the uprights. they were put in with the rebuilding of it after it was hit. my question is after the trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending why do all the major bridges not have the same things.

Listen we gotta send billions to Ukraine to launder.. I mean help secure their border . There`s no $$ for the US .

tlark 03-27-2024 02:32 PM

anyone remember when US Navy Patrol boats strayed into Iranian waters and were taken prisoners for crossing into their waters. The crew members believed the GPS still had them in international waters but the GPS signal had been intercepted from land. Its called "spoofing", I don't think this should be rulled out. Did a hostile foreign country find the ability to hit the "re-set" button on this ship. Effectively knowing how to get this ship dark for enough time to take it off course ???

https://aviationweek.com/business-av...ofing-analysis

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Pass...Iranian-waters

Indy 03-27-2024 02:47 PM

Here comes the stupidity, I figured it wouldn't take long.

tlark 03-27-2024 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4894117)
Here comes the stupidity, I figured it wouldn't take long.

yea its pretty stupid to objectivity look at possible causes and/or a reasoning if a foreign entity would wish to do us harm by damaging critical infrastructure, that was a real waste of $ building that Cheasapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel to the south, simpletons in the Navy couldn't read basic Rayteaon Marine systems in the Persian Gulf


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