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Jase 06-11-2024 11:19 AM

Getting out of the hole.....
 
This is a dumb question and I'm embarrassed to ask.....a long time ago I read its very hard on the joints in the outdrive to go over 2000rpm with the drive completely down. So for my entire boating career, I've been getting up on plan probably by forcing the engine too much with the drive at a bit less than on plane cruising angle. So slightly plowing the boat up out of the hole. Not excessively....but certainly not with the drive right down at a 90° angle. Can anyone clarify the correct way to get up on plane without damaging the mechanics of the boat? It's far past time I get it right.

techman 06-11-2024 12:00 PM

A boat for the most part is either on plane or off plane. So you want to get it on plane as quickly as possible to minimize wear and tear in general. That means drive tucked all the way in and tabs down (if you have them) and apply sufficient power to get going. Stock power and a stock drives are just fine to handle the loads. You just don't want to spend long amounts of time "plowing" through the water during that transition to getting on plane.

Brad Christy 06-11-2024 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jase (Post 4900247)
This is a dumb question and I'm embarrassed to ask.....a long time ago I read its very hard on the joints in the outdrive to go over 2000rpm with the drive completely down. So for my entire boating career, I've been getting up on plan probably by forcing the engine too much with the drive at a bit less than on plane cruising angle. So slightly plowing the boat up out of the hole. Not excessively....but certainly not with the drive right down at a 90° angle. Can anyone clarify the correct way to get up on plane without damaging the mechanics of the boat? It's far past time I get it right.

Jase,

The stresses of getting on plane are obviously shouldered by both the gears and the U-joint. I am no drive expert, but I don't believe the drive will trim down far enough to put a bind on the U-joint sufficiently to do it any harm at any load that the gears will tolerate. I'd say most of us get on a plane with our drives tucked all the way under, for no other reason than the lift helps plane faster. I know I do. I keep it right around 3K getting on plane, backing off the throttle as the boat noses over until it's on plane, then I trim it out, at which time I will then pick up about 400RPM or so.

Thanks. Brad.

Wildman_grafix 06-11-2024 12:12 PM

I am all the way down and tabs down, not all the way on tabs just because I found it works better not to.

Gets on plane faster and much less stress once on plane.

Brad Christy 06-11-2024 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4900254)
I am all the way down and tabs down, not all the way on tabs just because I found it works better not to.

Gets on plane faster and much less stress once on plane.

Wildman,

When I was dealing with what turned out to be clogged injectors, and we were WAY down on power, I tried using my tabs to help get on plane faster. It seemed take longer and put more strain on the mechanisms. I tried all the way down and about halfway down. Obviously, full down was worse than half, but even half seemed to be counter-productive. Could be because I've got the smaller tabs (not K-planes), and I need more angle to achieve a useful amount of lift....?

As it is now, I pretty much just leave my tabs alone, having found a setting the boat likes overall, unless I've got an uneven passenger load or I'm running WOT, when I raise them entirely. I will sometimes use a little left-down tab to counter chine walk, though. Seems to help.

Thanks. Brad.

zz28zz 06-11-2024 01:00 PM

Yep. trim the drive all the way down (or "IN") to get out of the hole. Trimming the drive too far up (or "Out") is where binding of u-joints occurs. Definitely want to avoid that.

Wildman_grafix 06-11-2024 03:03 PM

Could be the tabs, but they are different boats, mine is a twin your is a single, just have to find out what works. I do know and it may happen on yours when I put them further down I think the K planes mess up the water flow to the props.

Here since the water can be nasty a lot even on the inside and coming from the sides I am always adjusting tabs. When running fast its pretty busy.


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4900255)
Wildman,

When I was dealing with what turned out to be clogged injectors, and we were WAY down on power, I tried using my tabs to help get on plane faster. It seemed take longer and put more strain on the mechanisms. I tried all the way down and about halfway down. Obviously, full down was worse than half, but even half seemed to be counter-productive. Could be because I've got the smaller tabs (not K-planes), and I need more angle to achieve a useful amount of lift....?

As it is now, I pretty much just leave my tabs alone, having found a setting the boat likes overall, unless I've got an uneven passenger load or I'm running WOT, when I raise them entirely. I will sometimes use a little left-down tab to counter chine walk, though. Seems to help.

Thanks. Brad.


Jase 06-11-2024 04:01 PM

Thanks for the helpful replies 🙂. It's what my gut was telling me all along but I unfortunately read bad info years back leading me down a wrong path. I'll give drive all the way down a try next ride out

Griff 06-11-2024 08:36 PM

Whatever you read was incorrect. Drive all the way down to get on plane. You can run the boat as long as you want with the drive all the down with no adverse effects

liberator221 06-12-2024 07:46 AM

I know every boat is different, but mine seems to do a lot better if I ease into the throttle and then get more aggressive. Stabing it (even just 1/2 throttle) right off makes it stand up more.


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