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Advantage_Rob 12-06-2002 09:07 AM

New Suburban Z-71
 
Ok GM announced 0% 60 month deals on all SUV's yesterday so I went to the dealership and looked at them, priced them out, ect. So they have 3 Z-71 suburbans 2 new unmolested ones, and one that the owner took and has been driving for 3 weeks, and he just went on vacation, and it's at the airport and will be back on monday for me to take if I choose. This demo one is exactly what I would order, it has the DVD entertainment system, and 2nd row captians chairs, & no stupid XM radio.

Now my question is, technically this is a demo since it has 1500 miles on it or so, and how much less than invoice should I expect to pay. MSRP is $48,???, and with my GM discount it's $40,361.85, now what ammt below that should I expect to pay since this is a demo vehicle now?

WesSmith 12-06-2002 09:25 AM

I received a $5,000 discount on a 2002 Z-71 demo because it had approx. 3,000 miles on it. We worked the price down from there...

Hope that helps.

Advantage_Rob 12-06-2002 09:36 AM

That's exactly the kind of info I wanted to hear, thanks Wes. But do you get a gm discount? I would think they are alot less flexable on price when I'm already getting a full discount. They want to discuss price when the truck is there and I can actually get it. I want some opinions and ammo to try to save me some $$. Plus I really dont need a new truck so it's pretty easy for me to walk away if the price isn't right, but if it is right, man is that a nice truck!

28SS 12-06-2002 09:52 AM

Rob with using the formula GM uses when tagging a fllet vehicle
0 to 999 miles = 3% (PEP 1)
1,000 to 2,499 miles = 6% (PEP 2)
2,500 to 7,499 miles = 9% (PEP 3)
7,500+ miles = 14% (PEP 4)

WesSmith 12-06-2002 09:58 AM

Rob,

I'm not sure what a full GM discount is but I did receive a "loyalty" discount as a returning GM customer.

I also bargained on top of that and it turned out very well.
:D :D

wannabe 12-06-2002 10:06 AM

Rob, does it have the 6.0 engine?

If you are going to pull you want this!

My Yukon XL with the 5.3 does not pull as well as I would like. The 6.0 has more torque all the way around.

Wannabe

Advantage_Rob 12-06-2002 10:06 AM

oh I meant the GM employee discount for employee's and family members.

28ss 9% off sounds good, brings it to 36,728.81
I'll use this as ammo to try to say 36 is all I'm willing to pay, and see what happens. that's 3632.57 off is there more room?
I'm he kind of customer that salesman hate. I hope.

Uncle Toys 12-06-2002 10:12 AM

I don’t know if this is directly comparable, but I got precisely 20% off my Excursion back in February on a similar deal with less mileage. I’m assuming here that you are talking about a 2002 model. I’m not familiar with Z-71 suburbans and I am really surprised by that list price. What makes them so expensive? My list was something like $35K and that was top of the line, V10, etc. However, you will pay a little more for the zero percent financing.

Curious comment about the XM radio, what don’t you like about it?

BADA BING 12-06-2002 10:20 AM

UT, I think if I am not mistaking, the Z-71 is the Chevy version of
the GMC Denali, so this is what prices the truck to be more than
just the standard Sub.

As an option for you AR, you can check out the GMC Yukon XL with
what they call the 1SD pkg, I have this truck and it is loaded like
the Denali, but does not have the 6.0 motor and body kit:cool:

Either one is a nice truck, good luck:D

Advantage_Rob 12-06-2002 10:24 AM

UT it's a 2003

Base Msrp on a 1500 suburban is 39006.00 plus $5034 for the Z-71 package, $1295 for DVD entertainment system, and a bunch of other bs $400 nickel and dime things like full leather, adjustable pedals, heated seats, folding heated outside mirrors. Sounds alot nicer than my old 97 tahoe 4 door. It just adds up quick I guess. 20% sounds good to me!

If I dont get the feeling that they are pissed, and I'm happy I'll walk away, but thanks for everyone for the advice.

WesSmith 12-06-2002 10:30 AM

For what it's worth..

My Z-71 is not quite as luxurious as the Denali but it's pretty close...

One major difference is the "off road " package it has that includes larger shocks , etc.

It definately doesn't drive like a truck but did real well in the 8 inches of snow we got yesterday !!!

tmager 12-06-2002 10:33 AM

Rob, did you weigh loosing the rebate versus the no interest deal? Most of the time its better to take rebate deal. I plan on purchasing a new truck in April to haul the 32 Sunsation I bought. Hope the deals are hot then, too. Looking at the Avalanche without the plastic crap on it.

Advantage_Rob 12-06-2002 10:39 AM

It's 3.9% and a $2000 rebate OR 0% w no rebate, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I looked into the avalanche too, no good deals yet, and the gutter-less version is not available yet either, and I'll pass on the soft grey gutters, or overly cladded version.

A 32 huh, congrats!!!

Wannabe

It's a 5.3 285hp I have a 255hp tahoe now and It's merely adequate to tow with, which is good enough for me. You cant get the 6.0 with the z-71 package ( I dont think you can anyway), but I prefer the gas mileage of the smaller motor. I cant swing any deals for a 6.0 powerstroke excursion, plus GM interiors are so much more liveable than the ford truck inside, not that I wouldn't love one or anything, but that's my only defense right now:)

Uncle Toys 12-06-2002 10:40 AM

Advantage Rob - If it's a 2003 model, then my example wouldn't apply. I thought you were looking at buying a 02' while the dealer was facing the 03' model roll out.

WesSmith 12-06-2002 11:23 AM

I took a $2500 rebate and the 2.9% financing that was available back in July - August........

That was the better deal at the time !

MitchStellin 12-06-2002 11:31 AM

Rob, be very careful what engine you get. The 5.3 is a complete waste of time and money and if I ever run into the jerk who designed this I will run them over (even if it was you, thats how mad I am:D ) I just dumped a 01 for a 03 Excursion Limited 7.3 so no more kick downs into drive and no more knees in the chin seating. I really like GM but they turned the Suburban into a glorified minivan. I would get the 3/4 ton unless you plan on only driving it to and from the grocery store:rolleyes: Even then watch out, more than 4 bags and you will need to put it in drive.:eek: Been riding yet? look for an OSO get together soon. Feb. sounds good.

Sydwayz 12-06-2002 11:40 AM

If you plan on towing more than 3000 lbs with it, go for the 2500 with the 8.1L. You will NOT be disappointed. I love my 8.1L 2500 AV.

powerboat 12-07-2002 12:15 AM

I have a 01 1/2 ton sub with 5.3. This truck out tows my 93 with a 454 3/4 ton an day. I changed exhasut and aircleaner and it tows fine. My boat and trailer only weigh 7000lbs though. Up grades 65-70 mph no problem. Next time I'lll get the 6.0 and a larger boat.


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