Zero need to run a properly designed cat with that much trim... Nor-Tech built a heavy boat, (solid lamination), and that is most likely why they can say that none have blown over. It will be interesting to see which outboard designs work the best as speeds will approach 150 mph this season. A 6000 LB outboard rig Vs. an 11,000 LB inboard at 150 mph is night and day. Proper trim angle and deck design are going to shine.

Joe

OP.
I'm obviously biased here but please before you buy anything contact Tony Chiaramonte at DCB and go for a ride in the M37R or the M42R. I own an M37R and I promise you DCB just does things differently, the fit and finish and attention to detail is insane. The M37R is an incredible handling hull and the cockpit is deep and has a bunch of room, my M37R even has a little "bedroom" and two seats in the sponsons under the deck for my kids to sleep and get out of the sun making it a really good "day boat" for what it is. Outboard cats certainly don't ride like in I/O cat, but they hold their own just fine after you dial in your driving for rough water. I've spent time in a 368 with 1100QC4V power and it was an amazing boat, I personally wouldn't be afraid of that if you are after I/O power, it handled great and did everything right IMO.

I've also driven the new M42R and it is equally as amazing as the M37R just bigger in feeling with more room.

I've also spent time in a DW36 and I thought it was a great boat as well, some good deals popping up on these intermittently now days too. I really like the MTI product and I know they are fantastic boats, I've never spent time in one so I can't comment on that but I do love what they build and know they perform amazing too. A lot of great options in the outboard cat market right now.

How does your 42V with quad 400 V10 run btw? I just ordered a CC and did quad 400R V10 as well, I think for a CC they are the perfect power package.

I truly appreciate that feedback. I love the look of the m37r as well. My only real setback is how far away their headquarters are. Seems silly to some but it’s nice at the same time having the direct support immediately available any time. I also appreciate the feedback on the 368, I have decided that is more boat then I should buy at this point with lack of cat experience.

As far as my 42 CC with quad 400r v10’s. I absolutely love it. I didn’t buy my CC to be the fastest boat ever, I mean c’mon it’s a CC lol. But, my CC still has a top speed of 86mph (so far). Mine is a carbon edition boat so the lighter weight helps add some speed. But the big difference of this setup versus the same boat with quad 500r’s/450r’s was the midrange acceleration, the 400r’s having noticeable less midrange acceleration due to less torque. But it’s also nice that it gets excellent mpg so I don’t need to fill up very often, very reliable, and still goes plenty fast. I agree with you, to me they are a perfect CC power package. If I were to do it all over again I’d go with the same identical power as I have now.

An inboard 368 is a much more forgiving boat to drive than an outboard cat, especially on a rough day on the lake. If you've been following the cat accidents (many fatal) over the past 7-8 years, you'd know that most have been 400+ HP outboard cats since that market exploded. Like I stated in a previous post, if you have the financial means to afford a million-dollar boat on LOTO, your best bet is a 40 Skater/1100 setup (or similar 36'-46' inboard cat with modest power - 700-1100 aside). A newbie driver behind the wheel of a 130mph lightweight outboard cat on the unpredictably rough waters of LOTO is not a good combination. There have already been far more that have wrecked vs inboard cats since this outboard cat craze started when Mercury released the 400R Verado. I have a little more interest in giving good advice than most on here, seeing as I witnessed firsthand a newbie driver have a fatal accident after purchasing my old Skater 30/400R rig. Stephan and Nancy were staying at my house the weekend the accident occurred, and we lost Nancy. It was the worst boating day of my life - and I've had some pretty bad ones. I'm not saying it can't happen to a newbie driver in an inboard cat either, but I've owned several of both types and can tell you that an inboard cat is a much safer boat than an outboard cat at the same speeds. Do your research and get out and go for rides in all the different boats you're interested in so you can make the decision for yourself. PBC basically has one of anything you could possibly want to go for a ride in, go make those guys earn their money! :)

It adds a few tens of thousands, which is not a big deal considering the overall financials.

Also, given the paint jobs on many Skaters, adding budget for a paint job that does not look like dog sh*t wouldn’t hurt.

You know the comment that your CC only is 86mph. I think we all have forgotten, 86 is still fast on the water and chit can happen fast.

Particularly with 8-12 of your best friends (sarcasm) riding along. I get it they are big stable boats but that still is a lot of force moving along.

Edit:

No I am not the safety police or buzz kill. It is just something me and my buddies were talking about the other day. How we all have gotten used to speeds on the water, but we are still on unpredictable water.

There is not a chance I am topping out my CC with a bunch of friends and family in the boat. I am just not putting all those people at risk. It is a lot of boat to handle as you said. Only time I am doing that is with just a select few people with me.

Your point is so true and I think about that all the time. Some years ago just hitting 90 for me in a performance oriented boat was a big deal. Now that’s just another number nobody takes seriously. Funny how things change over time isn’t it?

Man I am truly sorry to read that story. Sorry for the loss of your friend, that is not easy to cope with.

I appreciate this feedback from your personal experience of having both.

100% correct (too many people at risk), boats are running numbers we only dreamed about in the not to distant past as you said. The other part of the deal that people don't consider is how much weight ends up in front of the c.g. when you have a bunch on board and all of the bow area seating. Stepped hulls, high x dimensions, weight forward, and turns= bad. Let us know what you end up with.

Joe

This would be first one my list to checkout if I were in the market. Seems to be priced very well. No not the fastest but a great ride and you can’t beat that layout.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...00-o85635.html