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spitfire1 12-07-2002 08:40 PM

Apache vs. Cigarette
 
With strong followers on both sides, I am wondering what you guys think the resale will do for the respective boats say five years from now....with different building techniques allowing for lighter setups...do you think that the Apaches will eventually lose their appeal.....and thus their resale value as well? I think that there will always be a buyer out there, but it may become increasingly hard to get a good price from them due to the weight to H.P. ratio.......what do you think???

spitfire1 12-07-2002 08:51 PM

I guess I am mainly referring to the 41 and 47 Apaches....

spitfire1 12-07-2002 09:07 PM

Yeah....that is pretty much the way I feel as well.....I too have a certain fondness for them, but am a little skeptical about them holding up as well as the cigs.......the 41 is on my list as one of the boats I would like to own...but I guess I am a little gun shy about the hit I would take when it came time to try something else......limited appeal and low trade in allowance.............

Back4More 12-07-2002 10:31 PM

Remember those 70' LS-6 Chevelles...worth a lot today even though todays Camaros and Vettes are now faster.
If you want a big bad boat...they are the badest!:p

THEJOKER 12-07-2002 10:55 PM

my .o2 worth
 
Cigarette's are just too damn expensive - If I had to do it all over again I would of bought Tonto's other 41 Apache for $ 130,000 and I could of upgraded another $ 100,000 and still be ahead of the game. I have a 2003 Top Gun w/ 575's(brand new 0 hours) for sale and can't give it away - BH

spitfire1 12-07-2002 11:02 PM

I dont think it is just the cigs that arent moving right now.....I think all boat sales are off......as far as that goes......

SABER28 12-07-2002 11:02 PM

good point back4more:)

plus what gets everybody drooling at a car show? , certainly not a new camaro

Zoomnfun 12-07-2002 11:29 PM

Wow, a reasonable discussion, Imagine that.

Didn't think they still existed, thanks.

Dean

Tbonepmp 12-08-2002 12:26 AM

I agree with both Spitfire and Too Old.
I feel that there is a buyer for everything... it just comes down to how much of a hurry you are in to sell. I also feel that the lighter lay-ups and step-bottoms are going to be more desirable as they already are because of all the headaches that generally go along with big power. As it is getting easier everyday to make a 38' ft. boat run in the 80's and 90's with stock Merc. power. Almost all of the brokers and dealers I have spoke with on this matter, told me that it is getting harder and harder to sell big heavy boats with big power for big dollars when you can buy big light boats with small/stock power for big dollars...that go just as fast and in some cases...FASTER. Afterall guys, isn't that what we are talking about here... :) Bottom line, it just comes down to what appeals to you as an individual... Look at TONTO, he is an APACHE man through and through as I am sure there are several die-hard Cig. guys as well... As far me... well, let's just say I'm in between....:)

Nykamp 12-08-2002 07:13 AM

APACHES
 
Both are awsome, there seems to be a lot fewer apaches out there than cig's. From what I have seen the 41's seem to have gone up in value from 4 to 5 years ago. I love both I went with 36 WARRIOR because I have always wanted an APACHE. I was going to buy a cafe or a top gun but the enclosed head's are bigger in the 36 's as well as they have more freeboard. Being 6'4 that was important to me. My next purchase will a 41 with big power and 6 pack cockpit for poker runs. A heavy 41 is nice for lake michigan.I like the old school stuff big power and big drives.


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