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SecondWind 03-06-2025 07:46 AM

New Flooring
 
My lone Winter upgrade on the old PQ was new flooring. The original carpet was tired
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c9238f90b8.jpg
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and the step pads were coming unglued. I took it to Kastelic Canvas in the Chicagoland area. They were great to work with and I think it turned out nice.

Brad Christy 03-06-2025 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921424)
My lone Winter upgrade on the old PQ was new flooring. The original carpet was tired
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c9238f90b8.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...42792e09f2.jpg
and the step pads were coming unglued. I took it to Kastelic Canvas in the Chicagoland area. They were great to work with and I think it turned out nice.

SecondWind,

Looks great. We've talked about doing something similar, but we keep hearing horror stories about staining. I personally like the bare floor. We pulled the carpet out after our first couple outings in ours after buying it. Still chewing on the idea.

I see you've pulled your seat pedestals. Neil Wallace suggested against it, as the stainless bolts and aluminum nut inserts in the floor would likely have fused over time. He said I'd likely break as many as I got out. I don't have any immediate need to pull them, but I'm curious if you encountered any of this. The company we talked to at a local boat show said if we wanted a flooring made, they design them to go in around the pedestal feet, so we wouldn't have to pull them.

Thanks. Brad.

SecondWind 03-06-2025 10:23 AM

Brad,
I bought the boat like this. We didn’t pull anything. I never realized the boat came with pedestals. Ignorance is bliss I guess. I love the boat though and the flooring really woke up a tired interior!
Rob

ICDEDPPL 03-06-2025 10:30 AM

That looks fantastic, love that design!!!

Brad Christy 03-06-2025 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921434)
Brad,
I bought the boat like this. We didn’t pull anything. I never realized the boat came with pedestals. Ignorance is bliss I guess. I love the boat though and the flooring really woke up a tired interior!
Rob

SecondWind,

I think I was misunderstood. Did you have troubles getting the seats unbolted from the floor?

Thanks. Brad.

SecondWind 03-06-2025 11:35 AM

The shop who installed the floor took them out. I’m picking the boat up this afternoon and I’ll ask if they encountered any problems.

Brad Christy 03-06-2025 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921442)
The shop who installed the floor took them out. I’m picking the boat up this afternoon and I’ll ask if they encountered any problems.

:ernaehrung004:

SecondWind 03-06-2025 01:10 PM

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He said much easier than Bajas if that makes sense, wasn’t a problem🤷🏻‍♂️

SecondWind 03-06-2025 01:12 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b2eff33bd.jpeg

Brad Christy 03-06-2025 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921456)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...743dc464d.jpeg
He said much easier than Bajas if that makes sense, wasn’t a problem🤷🏻‍♂️

SecondWind,

Good to know. My guess is that, MAYBE, PQ used some anti-seize or something to keep the screws from fusing to the nuts, whereas Baja may not have. Who knows. Our boats are the same year, so, hopefully, if I ever have to remove my seat frames, I won't have the same problem your shop didn't have.

What did they charge you? If you don't mind me asking....

Thanks. Brad.

outlaw511 03-06-2025 02:27 PM

Hey, hey, you guys, leave the Bajas out of it, lol

SecondWind 03-06-2025 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4921460)
SecondWind,

Good to know. My guess is that, MAYBE, PQ used some anti-seize or something to keep the screws from fusing to the nuts, whereas Baja may not have. Who knows. Our boats are the same year, so, hopefully, if I ever have to remove my seat frames, I won't have the same problem your shop didn't have.

What did they charge you? If you don't mind me asking....

Thanks. Brad.

$3500 total
$2700 for flooring
$800 to rebuild driver side bolster, it was falling apart. Everything looks great!

ICDEDPPL 03-06-2025 05:33 PM

You payed almost $3k for that !?!?
I guess if they installed it and had to remove seats and stuff you gotta pay more.
I`m at $1500 cockpit and rear step and between the hatches all the way down 3 color 9mm.

SecondWind 03-06-2025 06:09 PM

Yes I paid $3500 for that. I just dropped the boat off. They did come to my house to take measurements which is a two hour drive from their shop (round trip). I’m sure the materials didn’t cost much, mostly paying for labor. I’m used to paying $3500 to have something fixed on the boat. It was nice to see something vastly improved for $3500. I felt like I was winning today🤣


Brad Christy 03-06-2025 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921489)
Yes I paid $3500 for that. I just dropped the boat off. They did come to my house to take measurements which is a two hour drive from their shop (round trip). I’m sure the materials didn’t cost much, mostly paying for labor. I’m used to paying $3500 to have something fixed on the boat. It was nice to see something vastly improved for $3500. I felt like I was winning today🤣

SecondWind,

The company we spoke to at the boat show in Cincinatti gave us a soft quote (non-committal without seeing the boat) of $2200, and that was 2yrs ago, and, supposedly, the "boat show special", which we obviously didn't jump on, so your $2700 doesn't sound too far off the mark.

Thanks. Brad.

Brad Christy 03-06-2025 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4921484)
You payed almost $3k for that !?!?
I guess if they installed it and had to remove seats and stuff you gotta pay more.
I`m at $1500 cockpit and rear step and between the hatches all the way down 3 color 9mm.

Dan,

Where did you get yours done?

Thanks. Brad.

ICDEDPPL 03-07-2025 09:52 AM

Wind, as long as you`re happy that`s all that matters.

Bradster, a place in Loto.
I always negotiate however, $1500 wasn`t the first price.

Ryanw10 03-07-2025 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4921548)
Wind, as long as you`re happy that`s all that matters.

Bradster, a place in Loto.
I always negotiate however, $1500 wasn`t the first price.

In a niche world like marine upholstery and interiors, I would think negotiating gets you a lower quality final product then if you just paid full price from the get go.

SecondWind 03-07-2025 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4921548)
Wind, as long as you`re happy that`s all that matters.

Bradster, a place in Loto.
I always negotiate however, $1500 wasn`t the first price.

I'm happy with the flooring and bolster. I'd recommend Kastelic Canvas to anyone for marine interior work. I don't mind paying for good work. I hear you though about paying asking price without questions. I've also been taken advantage of with my trusting nature for sure.

ICDEDPPL 03-07-2025 11:26 AM

Ryan11, Not sure why you would think that.
The design and material isn`t changing and it`s snap in so how could I get less quality?
Customers negotiate with me all the time, I have a certain number in mind which doesnt include cutting corners. Once they get to my I have to cut corners price then they can go somewhere else.
Slow times I give way better pricing, LOTO is a ghost town so I`m taking advantage of that. He started high, I started low and we met in the middle. he was happy and so was I , win win.


If you don`t negotiate then you`re just costing yourself money, what`s the worst thing that could happen?


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ICDEDPPL 03-07-2025 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by SecondWind (Post 4921552)
I'm happy with the flooring and bolster. I'd recommend Kastelic Canvas to anyone for marine interior work. I don't mind paying for good work. I hear you though about paying asking price without questions. I've also been taken advantage of with my trusting nature for sure.

Kastelic made the back seat in the Cig and a cover for me, nice job but they are not cheap either and even thou I payed full price that extra money didn`t buy me extra awesome work. They had to come to my house,take more measurements and redo the cover because it did not fit well, still didn`t fit afterwards and the zippers got stuck constantly. They also destroyed my old cover which they used as a template, I wanted that cover. I don`t see why they are more $$ cause I didn`t get a better product.

I wouldn`t be able to afford boating if I didn`t shop around.
$20k for waves and wheels to do the interior, I`m paying $6k and it will look just as good if not better since the $20k wastheir 'basic' start price.

Ryanw10 03-07-2025 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4921553)
Ryan11, Not sure why you would think that.
The design and material isn`t changing and it`s snap in so how could I get less quality?
Customers negotiate with me all the time, I have a certain number in mind which doesnt include cutting corners. Once they get to my I have to cut corners price then they can go somewhere else.
Slow times I give way better pricing, LOTO is a ghost town so I`m taking advantage of that. He started high, I started low and we met in the middle. he was happy and so was I , win win.


If you don`t negotiate then you`re just costing yourself money, what`s the worst thing that could happen?


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c658475936.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d2afab05b8.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c5a796be51.jpg

I would think the small little mistakes that may or may not happen during the process, would tend to get fixed quicker for a full price paying customer than a negotiating customer

ICDEDPPL 03-07-2025 11:56 AM

That`s not how that works.
Read "The Art of the Deal"


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