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Markus 12-03-2025 01:40 AM

Joe, thank you for keeping us updated.

boostbros 12-03-2025 07:13 AM

we are flying a wing in ground effect without any aero control devices with the center of gravity off the charts to far back

Wildman_grafix 12-03-2025 08:42 AM

I was talking to a pilot that was a performance boater once and he said he prefers his wings to have control surfaces.

Either way, is it known yet what really happened? Did it blow over or stuff a sponson or?

Wildman_grafix 12-03-2025 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by DRAG (Post 4939516)
There is a video. I don't have it.

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caseyh 12-03-2025 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4939518)
Everyone's obsessed with top speeds these days. Manufacturers are all about those bragging rights, so they're cranking out boats with ever-wider tunnels to cram in more air for crazy lift and compression—meaning less hull in the water—while keeping things super light for killer power-to-weight ratios. Mercury keeps pumping out ever more powerful outboards. Toss in those Motec kits that slap on another 150+ horsepower, and boom: a perfect storm waiting to happen. I

Not a huge fan of STUUUU, but credit where it's due—maybe he spotted the writing on the wall and jumped ship.

Meanwhile, online, the slower cats like DCB, Mystic, and the newest quad from Nortech catch endless heat for not matching the top speed craze of MTIs and the like.
Nortech, Mystic DCB aim to make a safe catamaran instead of the outright speed demon ...I say that's the way to go. I'd take arriving last over not arriving at all but most guys have way too much ego so here we are.
I would be very surprised if the 4000 Nortech blew over. They didn`t make a cat for years because they wanted to build a safe one. MTI isn`t on the same page


it has always amazed me that some great running hulls never catch on because they are a few MPH slower and that may only be on the top end. getting there first does not always mean your having the most fun.

Tartilla 12-03-2025 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4939473)
Gregg Rosen, the owner of Aqua Mania was killed in a 39 MTI too. He has owned some of the fastest boats in the world and was very experienced. So yeah, I would agree that the 39 MTI has bitten some very experienced boaters. One incident could be chalked up to bad luck, etc…, but when it’s happened to multiple guys with a lot of experience, I think the 39 MTI needs to really be looked at as the common denominator in these situations.

I think a quick fix is insurance companies black list them, banks stop financing them, and they will go away.

The likely COA would be the insurance companies decide not to insure any go-fast hull vs just a specific CAT model/brand.

Tartilla 12-03-2025 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by boostbros (Post 4939532)
we are flying a wing in ground effect without any aero control devices with the center of gravity off the charts to far back

Most folks don't know what ground effect is.

Even computer controlled control surfaces would be dangerous whem on the ragged edge in gusty conditions. Over correction would cause an accident. Difficult to know how much when going that fast.

nautdesign1 12-03-2025 11:26 AM

14 years later yet the laws of aerodynamics remain the same.....

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zz28zz 12-03-2025 11:54 AM

The F-16 Fighters are "fly by wire" and would be impossible for a human to control manually. They have a CG too far aft to be inherently stable but computers can keep them in the air. So it's possible but at what cost?

tommymonza 12-03-2025 12:19 PM

I’m telling you guys it was the wind gusts out of No Where that got him . They were like mini tornadoes.


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