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underpsi68 12-03-2025 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 4939357)
Sending Prayers for all involved. :( Unfortunately, the local media and keyboard experts will have a field day with this one. That is a tricky area where the accident occurred. 25 mph speed limit...and beginning of a no wake zone.

Did the accident happen in a 25mph speed limit area?

Pwcpro785 12-03-2025 02:30 PM

May sound stupid but what about a pressure transducer giving constant feedback on tunnel pressure.
I know nobody could react quick enough to stop it but maybe you could see tunnel pressure changes as wind gusts hit as conditions are worsening?
As it is now its really hard to tell wind speed and direction when you're traveling 80+

Twin O/B Sonic 12-03-2025 04:08 PM

It took decades for the Unlimiteds to
start running them.

The issue has always been the delay from need to activation.

Recent videos show them in action but not sure of their control.






Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4939546)
Most folks don't know what ground effect is.

Even computer controlled control surfaces would be dangerous whem on the ragged edge in gusty conditions. Over correction would cause an accident. Difficult to know how much when going that fast.


12meter joe 12-03-2025 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4939570)
It took decades for the Unlimiteds to
start running them.

The issue has always been the delay from need to activation.

Recent videos show them in action but not sure of their control.

pretty sure they control those manually with their feet?

texaschopper 12-03-2025 07:02 PM

Many moons ago I was affiliated with a 7 litre inboard hydro. The hull had what was nicknamed "the toilet". The boat would run around 140 down the straights, as the driver entered the turn he had a pedal that opened a door we'll call it in the sponson(s) which filled it with water to weight the front of the hull down. Come out of the turn, get on the gas, and as the boat felt more comfortable the driver would open another door that would dump all the water, or if it did not feel comfortable he would keep some of it in the sponsons. This was of course a wash, rinse, repeat deal so to speak on a race course. Perhaps a lot different in open water running around? Always thought that was a great idea. Many of the other boats in the class through the years blew over, this one never did.

Skater30 12-03-2025 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by JPEROG (Post 4939522)
Very happy to hear that Neal has made a positive turn and was able to be operated on. Please continue to keep him and all affected in your thoughts and prayers.

Joe

Thanks for keeping to what's important in this thread Joe, the people involved in this accident. I've been hearing from friends that though Kirby is pretty beat up, he's going to be ok in the long term. The severe saltwater ingestion in his lungs is what I've heard he's having the most difficulty recovery from, but that he is steadily getting better. All these keyboard warriors on here are why I started the thread I posted immediately after my old 30 Prototype went over with the new owner and took Nancy's life - if you don't stop this stuff before it starts, it just goes on and on. It also reminds me of the dogpile that jumped on my original accident in my 30 Prototype back in 2006 - it seems as though some things never change.........

Brad Christy 12-04-2025 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 4939573)
pretty sure they control those manually with their feet?

Joe,

Yup. Two pedals. One for the throttle, one for the canard.

Thanks. Brad.

Brad Christy 12-04-2025 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by boostbros (Post 4939532)
we are flying a wing in ground effect without any aero control devices with the center of gravity off the charts to far back

BoostBros,

Yup. Literally, just relying on air dump to regulate tunnel pressure at that critical point between loft and lift.

Thanks. Brad.

Twin O/B Sonic 12-04-2025 07:19 AM

Pretty sure they started w/sensors mounted to the hull that sent signals to a computer.

Troubke w/that is, it can’t read the water in front of you to set the hull up for it, as we humans can.

I looked at the still shots of accident scene and surface of water is clearly wind blown.

Water looks choppy too but as I have learned first hand, it’s impossible to judge wave action from pixs or video.



Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 4939573)
pretty sure they control those manually with their feet?


Markus 12-04-2025 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 4939602)

Troubke w/that is, it can’t read the water in front of you to set the hull up for it, as we humans can.

We are getting seriously derailed here, but just like a Rolls Royce can read the road surface in front of it and adjust the suspension, the technology is available to read the water surface.


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