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Twin O/B Sonic 12-03-2025 01:03 AM

This is like the guys in their 130 mph cats at a poker run being pissed at the cruiser/pleasure boat crossing the course.

If you’re not on a closed course, the cruiser aint the problem!

tommymonza 12-03-2025 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by powerboatr (Post 4939487)
I would add.
That just because you have a high performance boat, the funds to operate it..
Does not make you a knowledgeable captain
So much can go wrong at high speeds
No way would I say to slow them down
I have not read how fast this boat was going
But prudence would be ..in a river with many other boats, plus boats, barges not affiliated with the event..that maybe speed limits should be part of the solution , as well as real time weather info.

Oh yes its a thrill that will get you at 100 plus
but closed course or other means to reduce risk
should be part of the solution
Captains that have the ability to run high speeds
should be trained and certified
We have all seen boats in races at less speed decide hey its time to fly .
I was not there, I do not know how much congestion was in area, I did read about he weather, not being the norm, with odd winds and gusts.
weather is or can be a real bitotch
Poker runs, etc are fun. .
the boats, yes the performance boats are great.

But these are not races...
people do dumb ****.
Just because a boat can run real fast, does not mean thats what needs to happen
Risk management needs to be improved
i like watching these events as well as participating
I would hate to see them go away
texoma is a perfect example of how **** went wrong, got worse and killed people
all stopped for far to long.

nice Ai response azz Hat

nautdesign1 12-03-2025 12:03 PM

For the record Matt (whilst I disagree with you on this point) you otherwise do a brilliant job. I also agree that an MTI witch hunt is not appropriate as any of these modern light “high wing area cats” are very susceptible to aerodynamic perturbations. The key is to train the operators to spot dangerous conditions ahead of time so they know when to dial things back. We all don’t have Billy Moore’s experience or ability to feel the nuances of a catamaran approaching the limit.



ND1

302Sport 12-03-2025 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by nautdesign1 (Post 4939557)
For the record Matt (whilst I disagree with you on this point) you otherwise do a brilliant job. I also agree that an MTI witch hunt is not appropriate as any of these modern light “high wing area cats” are very susceptible to aerodynamic perturbations. The key is to train the operators to spot dangerous conditions ahead of time so they know when to dial things back. We all don’t have Billy Moore’s experience or ability to feel the nuances of a catamaran approaching the limit.



ND1

I think the stats speak for themselves, and it shows that the 39 MTI has to be the highest fatality vs number of hulls produced boat out there right now. Why haven't there been over a half dozen fatalities in the same make/model of other OB cats? Why is it so hard to believe that this particular hull might be that much closer to the hairy edge than the rest of them?

36Tango 12-14-2025 08:15 AM

Now that a bit of time has passed, has there become a more solid explanation about what happened? The initial report of hitting a marker has been debunked. Was it, indeed, high speed and a gust of wind? Has it been reported how fast they were moving or how much wind gust there was?

I am not looking to throw any stones or cast any bad wishes, but as a cat owner, I'd sure like to know what happened so that I do not repeat it.

I am certainly glad to hear that the survivor is doing better, but the physical and emotional pains may never go away.

105Fountain 12-14-2025 10:33 AM

I was in a place last night guy claiming hit bridge?? I boat down there a lot it was windy and choppy that day RIP! It flipped correct?


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