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ROGMAN 12-20-2002 11:29 AM

Trent Lott
 
Trent Lott stepped down today as the Senate majority leader. I guess the pressure finally got to him!!
News

seanclong 12-20-2002 11:35 AM

Geez, I thought the pressure from the Dem's was bad. Nothing compared to the pressure from his own party!!!! Politicians truly are barracudas....:eek:

SABER28 12-20-2002 11:40 AM

live by the sword , die by the sword

seanclong 12-20-2002 11:44 AM


Originally posted by SABER28
live by the sword , die by the sword
Very appropriate coming from someone with a Saber powerboat!!! :D LOL

Playn 12-20-2002 11:46 AM

The whole thing is so rediculous. The media and all these touchy feely groups blow eveything totally out of proportion in nothing but an effort to gain power. Smeer the reputaion of a man for honoring another person's 100th birthday, we've sunk that low.:rolleyes: :mad:

Donzi38ZX 12-20-2002 11:50 AM

As I understand it from some "Party Officials" republicans thought he was inept as majority leader and wanted him out. This was just an opportunity.

SABER28 12-20-2002 11:51 AM

playn , see newsweek for a complete list of trent's no-no's:p

SABER28 12-20-2002 11:54 AM

donzi,
that 's probably correct:rolleyes:

Steve 1 12-20-2002 12:13 PM

This shows that the democRats are keeping up with their usual racial hysteria as the centerpiece of their corrupt crumbling party.

LOL I do have to laugh they need 90% of the Black vote just to survive and have succeeded only in driving away more of their white voter base.

:D :D

seanclong 12-20-2002 12:44 PM


Originally posted by Steve 1
This shows that the democRats are keeping up with their usual racial hysteria as the centerpiece of their corrupt crumbling party.

LOL I do have to laugh they need 90% of the Black vote just to survive and have succeeded only in driving away more of their white voter base.

:D :D

Not sure what the Dem's have to do with it. He was driven off by his own party. He wouldn't have had the votes to remain Majority Leader.

Steve1, it's not always a matter of Dem's vs. Rep's in politics as you seem to like to make it out. Sometimes it's just an anachronistic, racist old dinosaur shooting himself in the foot.

Steve 1 12-20-2002 01:27 PM

Clong What !!!!!!! Am I reading this right ??
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Not sure what the Dem's have to do with it. He was driven off by his own party. He wouldn't have had the votes to remain Majority Leader.
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Can I ask a Question like where the hell have you been ?????? all of the Racial hysteria has been brought to us by your friendly Racebaiting Democrats.

I personally am glad Lott had to step down, but not because of his comments. What he said was wrong but he has apologized. SO MUCH FOR FORGIVENESS.

I guess forgiveness is only given to the criminals in the socialist democrat party. Its real a shame he did not fight the dems or that Arkansas antichrist and her husband half as hard as he is apologizing now.

RLW 12-20-2002 03:05 PM

We reap what we sow.
Good Bye, Your Trentness.

mopower 12-20-2002 05:34 PM

Oh well, goodbye to "FREEDOM OF SPEECH":mad: ....at least if your white:rolleyes:

cigarette1 12-20-2002 05:38 PM

Why is that ... you are still free to speak your mind :confused:

mopower 12-20-2002 05:40 PM

Yeah , but at what cost???

cigarette1 12-20-2002 05:44 PM

Well ... that goes for anything ... there is always a cost ..... sometimes it's just more than you thought.

Steve 1 12-20-2002 05:48 PM

1 Attachment(s)
U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said Lott could make up for his statement by opening the door to legislation favored by the Black Caucus, pushing for a minimum wage increase, expanded affordable housing and a prescription drug benefit.

cigarette1 12-20-2002 05:51 PM

Steve1 ... you can put your card back in your wallet, we don't take those here. :rolleyes:

mopower 12-20-2002 05:53 PM

This is true.
But there are two groups of people in the country who you can't even SLIP and say something about without getting you head taken off(like I probalbly will for saying this)
I had no idea of Strom Thurmans past. I took "he sould have been elected president" as simply that. Honoring a life long dedicated politician who has been in office longer than most of us have been alive!
I seriously doubt things would be any different today , there was too much pressure and momentum in the 60's and no one man like S.T. could have stopped it.;)

Steve 1 12-20-2002 06:21 PM

Here is what I did not know about the old man !

Storm was a Judge in the early 40s, when he resigned to join the army. He landed on D-Day - when he was over 40, himself - and even spent some time in the Pacific theater after that. Three years later he was running for president.

These self righteous blacks and whites too should focus their feigned anger elsewhere...perhaps to the Sudan where Blacks are still enslaving other Blacks for money....Or to Nigeria where Blacks are starving to death because of incompetent black rulers....or in the Congo where they are eating each other.

Cowards have always held our nation back.

bucky 12-20-2002 06:41 PM

We can all think what we want, but our words need to be carefully chosen. I too am a registered Republican, but the man had to go. He stepped on his plonker big time and now has to pay the price. When you live in the public domain you are fair game. I am sure he will have enough to eat in his retirement.

Steve 1 12-20-2002 07:04 PM

Bucky agreed but this “Double Standard” is bull****.

KAAMA 12-20-2002 07:05 PM

I believe Lott was wrong when he made the statements he made at Thurmond's party. I also believe people should forgive him for what he has said, although I strongly believe he should have stepped down from the leadership position for the better of the country. He has finally stepped down, but I don't think he should quit altogether either.

Now that Lott has stepped down, the libs and the dems need to stop the hacking, but I don't think that will happen as I just saw Senator Hillary Clinton on the news saying something like:

"If you think this is all over with don't kid yourself........"

I just cannot believe some of these people! There are things I want to say here, but I am going to bite my lip and hold my peace. This kind of stuff just makes me so angry!

Bill272 12-20-2002 07:13 PM

Did anyone watch the BET interview with Lott? He came out and admitted he made a mistake and now realizes it and will change. Then they brought up his voting past. He voted every issue down that would advance civil rights and racial equality that he ever had a chance to vote down. As the interviewer brought up several of these votes, like affirmative action, the MLK holiday, he said that each time he voted down a "black" issue, it was a mistake. How stupid does he think America is? If you vote on similar issues the exact same way every time you have the chance, it's not a mistake, it's who you are. The guy's got a really racist voting history, so why doesn't he just say what he is? He represents himself and his consitituents and the Republican party in general. They are against helping the working class and/or poor and all for big business and people who think a $600 check is real tax reform. I'm not saying that's the worst thing ever, but facts is facts. For them to now be appalled at Lott's stance is a joke. They just realize that it might work against them in another election. They are doing exactly what a lot of republicans on this board always accuse the democrats of - trying to cater and cowtow to every group to scrounge votes. Why are they doing the same thing? They're probably in danger of losing more of the racist vote and their core constituency than they are of gaining any black support. Lott should just come out and say "sorry folks, but that's who I am and I don't count on your vote anyway."

Steve 1 12-20-2002 07:23 PM

These Bastards have a lot of room to talk: Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Movement

A little known fact of history involves the heavy opposition to the civil rights movement by several prominent Democrats. Similar historical neglect is given to the important role Republicans played in supporting the civil rights movement. A calculation of 26 major civil rights votes from 1933 through the 1960's civil rights era shows that Republicans favored civil rights in approximately 96% of the votes, whereas the Democrats opposed them in 80% of the votes!

These facts are often intentionally overlooked by the left wing Democrats for obvious reasons. In some cases, the Democrats have told flat out lies about their shameful record during the civil rights movement.

Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:

- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father's opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:
- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia
Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate

Steve 1 12-20-2002 07:26 PM

It was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
- Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton's political heroes
- George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
- Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia

The most famous of the school desegregation standoffs involved Governor Faubus. Democrat Faubus used police and state forces to block the integration of a high school in Little Rock, Arkansas. The standoff was settled and the school was integrated only after the intervention of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Steve 1 12-20-2002 07:29 PM

The very next time Democrats take to the national airwaves to dishonestly accuse Republicans of racial hatred, remember who the historical record up until this very day points to as the real bigots:

The Democrat Party. In all possible ways, the Democrat Party is built around the pillars of ultra leftists, many of whom are known participants in racism and/or affiliates of racist hate groups. Consider the Democrat Party of today's heroes and leaders:

- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group

- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television

- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs

- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City

- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups

- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters

- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.

- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast

- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis

The simple truth is that the Democrat Party's history during this century is one closely aligned to bigotry in a record stemming largely out of the liberal New Deal era up until the modern day. Bigots are at the center of the Democrat party's current leadership and role models.

And in a striking display of hypocrisy, many of the same Democrats who dishonestly shout accusations of "bigotry" at conservatives are practicing bigots of the most disgusting and disreputable kind themselves.

Playn 12-20-2002 07:55 PM


Originally posted by SABER28
playn , see newsweek for a complete list of trent's no-no's:p
Saber & Cat,

I've never taken the time to scrutinize Lott's voting record because what's a "good or bad" record would depend on your philosophy. The liberals would paint anyone that votes against Affirmitive Action as a racist. Well, I'm as far away from being a racist as you can ge and am TOTALLY against any "Affirmitive Action" because it is by definition racist and disriminatory. I believe that it is a crutch and sends the totally wrong message to the groups it pretends to help by telling them that they don't have the drive, talent, or ability to succeed on their own. The policy does away with hard work for entitlement.

I certainly don't expect any liberal to agree with my positions, however the people of Mississippi certainly had the right and oportunity to NOT elect him into office. And he certainly has the right to honor a man on his 100th birthday party.

KAAMA 12-20-2002 08:03 PM


Originally posted by Bill272
If you vote on similar issues the exact same way every time you have the chance, it's not a mistake, it's who you are. The guy's got a really racist voting history, so why doesn't he just say what he is? He represents himself and his consitituents and the Republican party in general. Lott should just come out and say "sorry folks, but that's who I am and I don't count on your vote anyway."
Bill272, If Lott's past voting record is true as you say, I would certainly have to agree with you! You are absolutely right and I truely mean that. It's a sad thing to see this kind of stuff in a person---I don't understand it, but then I know it's not a perfect world. I know there are people who have a hard time understanding why I believe in the things I believe in. It's also sad to see some people crying "FOUL" on national TV when it comes to the issue of racism when they need to look in the mirror themselves. Every man likes to be treated fairly. However, I am sure you would agree that scrutenization (spelling?) applies for both sides of the fence as well. Every man should be in pursuit of the truth, but it first has to start within himself.

Mark/KAAMA

SABER28 12-20-2002 08:14 PM

playn,

one of the things that lott did in the past was to keep out minorities in his fraternity. philosophy????? sorry thats just wrong.

Ted G 12-20-2002 08:28 PM


Originally posted by catmando
That's BS!! Mississippi politicians of both parties have always been racists. I grew up there, I know that for a FACT. Lott said he was "trying to honor the man, not the policies"-as if you could separate the two.:rolleyes:

Near the end of his life, segregationist George Wallace went around saying, "I am not a bad man". The closest Strom Thurmond ever came to apologizing for his lifelong racism was "times have changed". Yeah, right.

Lott opened his mouth and sealed his fate. Good riddance to BOTH of them.:mad:

I freekin love this!!! You say all this crap calling him a racist(and he may be or have been) and then on the very next thread you post

"I hope you can stay involved with this situation. Looks like the raghead is tryin to throw the blame onto the soldier."

So if I SAY I'm a liberal, I can say anything about any other race and it's just okey dokey-as long as I rip the first conservative that does it-or even comes close to it.

Well BULLSH*T, I am not racist, I am against affirmative action because it belittles the recipients and hurts other deserving people-like my children and their white and asian friends.

I am also against minority set asides, forced busing, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and all the other poverty pimps. I am against reparations because I nor any other person alive has ever held or traded in slaves, no is any slave alive to get the cash. I am also informed enough to know that the Dixiecrats were more intent on preserving state's rights than they were keeping segregation. I also see that the main groups practicing segregation at this time are black student unions, black fraternities and sororities, black social clubs, and black businesses that exclude all forms of other ethnic products(like a Circuit City that does not have a Country section in a black section of town-try not having rap in a white section of town and see what happens). Oh and before you get started-I used "black" because it was the word of choice for so long and "African-American" takes too damn long to type.

And just for the record I am happy to see Trent step down, he was a useless leader that just made things worse by doing these farcical mea culpas and trying to be the next poverty pimp.

Playn 12-20-2002 08:50 PM


Originally posted by SABER28
playn,

one of the things that lott did in the past was to keep out minorities in his fraternity. philosophy????? sorry thats just wrong.

Hmmm, I wonder how many whites don't make it into black frats?

Bill272 12-20-2002 08:56 PM

Mark,
I agree completely. I don't know his exact record, but I do know that he did not dispute anything that was said in the interview. The only thing he did say besides "I made a mistake there... and there.. and that time...and there, too" is that even though he always votes against affirmative action, he truely beleives in it because he hired a black man back in the 70's. That cracked me up. I do agree that scruteny(crap, that doesn't look right either) should go both ways. Every administration that I can remember has had opponents and critics and their views could be freely stated, especially during the last administration. I'm not defending it, but it got pretty ugly for a lot of years. But now, if you say anything negative about the Republican party, or gasp... George Bush, the sentiment I see is that you are anti-american, pro-terrorist, stomping on the graves of every american that gave his or her life for this country, and get the hell out if you don't like it because, goddamnit, we are at war!!! I just have a problem with that, because I don't think GW is a very bright guy. I just hope he's surrounded with intelligent people who will guide this country where it needs to go.

Bill272 12-20-2002 09:04 PM

haha, no kidding. I gotta check on the boat soon or I'll go crazy.

Steve 1 12-20-2002 09:25 PM

Well I see it’s about time to throw another of these non-racist Liberal’s on the fire!!

Racism is white. There ain't no black racism."
- U.S. Rep. Gus Savage, D.-Ill.
Responding to accusations that he delivered an
anti-Semitic speech
Houston Post, Spring of 1990

" I don't talk to you white motherf*****....You ***** motherf****** in the white press.....F*** you, you motherf****** assh***... white devils" - Gus Savage- Former U.S. representative from Chicago to a white member of the press)



As you can plainly see hypocrisy is a hall mark in the DemocRat ic Party
:mad:


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