Geeze Mike are you ever going to get off the Velocity bashing kick? It's going on 5 years now. I'll have to dig up the picture of the over weight yet weak F1 fountain that blew apart in Mississauga two years ago.

Weight has little to do with strength, Skater makes the strongest yet lightest boats out there.

thanks Mr.V...:cool:

actually i was RIGHT next to mitch when that happened...same race i broke my face all up...see thinker is better!

Fever Mike: 3,500 pounds???? Where did you get that from. My 280 weighs 4,650 pounds, about the same as most 26' hulls.

Kitten
 

Kitten I am at hollywood beach on the elk watching the ships breaking the ice. Not to far from where your cottage is in perryville:drool:

Looking at these posts, I think 1HYPER1 might be related to puder ;)

actually boy's you said coventional v bottom. velocity is not a conventional v bottom. it has a pad and a notched transom. the fastest conventional v botom to my knowledge is a stuphen

Treadwell

is the 30 Sutphen still legal for F2??

The Velocity VR-1 is a screaming fast boat for what it is, and yes it is faster than the Velocity 28. However Mike is right they are allot lighter than all other boats in their size and power. To get the weight down I do think they sacrifice hull strength?? Just what I have seen and heard.:cool:

yes the 30 stuphen is still legal. good point on powerplay but i believe like apache is a rough water boat. stuphen is the only boat i can think of that goes both ways.

Treadwell

Can someone post a pic of what this 280 looks like.

couldn't find the 280 but apparently this must be the VR-1. :D :D

Sorry couldn't resist.

..I'm curious as to why no one runs an F2 Sutphen, or Powerplay?
Like Tread said above, the Sutphen can run in the nasty and dance with the "fancy-bottoms" in the flat...

:cool:

Donzi38ZX, you made my morning! LOL!

i know...what's the fastest wood boat with equal power???

Back4More: Here's a 280 ... if it works ...

Hey,

Don't forget both the 27' and 29' Progression. I believe the 27' held a kilo record about 2 or 3 years ago. They are very light, but are built as strong as anything -vacuum bagged, vinylester, etc.

You have to throw Checkmate in the mix if your talking conventional bottoms!This tread started talking about stock production boats and turned into factory race boats( which we all know are not stock production boats ) ! Right?

First I don't think you "have to" sacrafice anything by building a boat light. Just take a look at the weights of Skaters. It's all in the production. The manufacturers that tend to produce a lot of boats each year tend to build their boat heavier, mostly due to production techniques. Cig has really brought their weights down yet still have unsurpassed quality.

Secondly all boats break and there have been a few Velocitites. Most of the Velocities have been 280s with huge power in the hands of the wrong people. get some air and land the boat on it's side or stuff it and it will probably come apart. I've also seen the bottoms come off an MTI in Corpus Christie TX and I'd never consider that boat to be a potato chip. In addition to the Fountain that came apart in Canada, there was a Sonic that lost most of the port side, now Sonic is not a light boat. I'm not bashing any of these companies, my point is all boats come apart except for maybe a Magnum :)

As usual I still believe that in racing the boat is only part of the equation and the team plays the biggest role. In flat water we had the slowest boat out there yet we went on to win the National Championship. It all matters what happens on race day. If Velocity was able to put together a team that didn't get bit by gremlins and were experienced then they would kick a$$. Others have tried to race Stuphens but none achieved the success of Doug and Kirby. There was a team that tried to run a Nortech (west coast) but never achieved the success of Adib. I believe there was also a team that ran a Powerplay that wasn't successful either.

The fastest V-bottom is one that has been spit in two and made into a cat. Wasn't there a company in NJ that did that, hydro something or other. Currently Velocity holds the F1 and E class kilo records.

Here's picture of a 280.

http://firststepp.home.att.net/bredwater.jpg

actually the sonic was torn open by a trim tab...and yes it's the same sonic that raced this year in f2 as well.... mr. v is TOTALLY correct...all boats break!...some sooner than others. what is thread about anyway???

thought it was about the Fastest Conventional V-Bottom.....

I guess we need a definition of what a conventional V-bottom is :confused:

Does it have a pad?
Does it have a step?
Does it have a notch?
Does it have a minimum degree?
Does it have a minimum length?
etc. etc. etc .....

;)

Let's see...how about the following:
Signature 28' & 38'
Superboat 30'
Carrera/Cobalt 30'
Hustler 32'

The Bad Boy Powerboats is the fast V boat

96.8 on GPS with 500 hps

damn...guess all the f2 boys should just go home now:rolleyes:

Is the Bad Boy really an F2 boat. Have they sold 5 pleasure versions?

G

..it has steps anyway..wrong thread Mike....

I ran a ton of poker runs this year and the only hp 500 powerd boats to pass me were a donzi zr, And a 34 phantom .(twisted styx). A V bottom is a V bottom and a cats a cat When it comes down to it.

DOES THE BAD BOY V BOTTOM MEET THE APBA WEIGHT REQUIREMENTS,IF SO THAT IS ONE BAD ASS BOAT WITH
STOCK 500 HPS.I THINK I SAW THAT PATICULAR BOAT AT THE SBI RACE IN NEW YORK IN 2002.IF YOU DONT MIND HOW
MUCH DOES THAT BOAT WEIGH,AND WHAT IS THE THE
TOTAL IN INCHES CUT OUT OF THE BOTTOM TO MAKE
THE OUTRAGEOUS STEPS IN THE BOTTOM.

You guys are all on drugs. It has to be an Eliminator!

what about Phantom?

Bad Boy
 

1HYPER1,

contact Eddie @ Smitty Marine 732-920-3945 or Kurt Berger @ Kurts Marine 732-477-7400. They can provide some info and also connect you with the builder, Tony Pacheco.

beautiful boat...

:cool:

There are way too many ego's on this board to ask this type of question. Someone should ask the question Who has the best boat on OSO? I bet there would be 8000 answers "I do!"

ego's and offshore???...nahhh

Agreed!

WFO!!!
 

This boat just sold REALLY CHEAP. It was rigged by Bobby Moore's, CHIEF Blower motors, Dry Sump 6's...FASSSST!!!!!
This Pic say it ALL!!!!!!! BRING IT ON!!!!!

ambusher, can you tell me about that 26' in the picture, it looks familiar.

So it's a florida boat? looks just like my '93, two tone blue, no w/s, maybe PC pipe style platform? Had a blower motor in mine then and it flew. I have some shots of mine at speed just like that...sittin' back carrying the keel in the air. :D