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GRH 11-11-2010 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 3251338)
Truth is.......

There are tragedies caused by addiction that afflict all walks of life.

Addictions to drugs.......

Addictions to PRESCRIPTION drugs

Addictions to porn.....

and addictions to alcohol........which has created as many or more broken lives than all of the others combined.

Do you curse Larry Flynt, Budweiser, Smirnoff, or Schering Plough with the same passion?

Look...... in no way do I condone drug dealing.........

My point here is that too many people on this site have taken "holier than thou" positions when it comes to these guys..... while at the same time condoning other forms of "dealer".

Some of the most respected guys in the performance industry were not too righteous when it came to befriending, partying and doing (boat) business with them.....and I include myself in that...only difference is I don't deny it.

The "cowboys'" criminal acts pale in comparison to the fraud, damage, and perversion perpetrated on all of us by the likes of Pelosi, Frank, and Rangel. Yet half of our population votes for these crooks each election day. If you know your history you may remember that our government actually engineered a "guns down/drugs back" air lift in cahoots with one of boat racing's more colorful champions back in the day.

The boys are in jail paying for their crimes...and probably deservedly....but aim your venom at the real bad guys who walk around scott free, destroying lives, and amassing fortunes while protected by some twisted political agenda....

Oh yeah...one more thing...they really were a lot of fun to be around.....and could flat out drive race boats like nobody's business.

T2x

Glorify thier lifestyle and actions all you want..... make comparisions to the elected officials too... maybe some young person reading this will get the idea that the end justify's the means and follow suit....but just because they liked fast boats doesn;t make them heros... the got what they deserved.... just too little too late.... imo

T2x 11-11-2010 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by GORT (Post 3251359)
Glorify thier lifestyle and actions all you want..... make comparisions to the elected officials too... maybe some young person reading this will get the idea that the end justify's the means and follow suit....but just because they liked fast boats doesn;t make them heros... the got what they deserved.... just too little too late.... imo

I never "glorified" them...I am just reacting to a lot of "condemnations" from people who didn't know them.

Let he who is without sin cast the first....etc.

Wobble 11-11-2010 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 3251338)
Truth is.......

Oh yeah...one more thing...they really were a lot of fun to be around.....and could flat out drive race boats like nobody's business.

T2x

Truth is they were probably loaded on cocaine and felt bulletproof, which made them a danger to all around.

T2x 11-11-2010 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 3251377)
Truth is they were probably loaded on cocaine and felt bulletproof, which made them a danger to all around.

Truth is that Coors Light avatar is a lot more dangerous to the "yoot of America" than this thread.

Also...I don't think I ever saw them high......

If you weren't there, you are shooting at ghosts.

Wobble 11-11-2010 03:14 PM

Seen plenty of drug money in racing over the last 40+ years (motor racing)

With all due respect, nothing you have to say is likely to change my opinion of drug traffickers.

joefitness123 11-11-2010 03:20 PM

Without a doubt, 2 of the best people to have known..

One day, they might be around again...

:drink:

T2x 11-11-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 3251386)
Seen plenty of drug money in racing over the last 40+ years (motor racing)

With all due respect, nothing you have to say is likely to change my opinion of drug traffickers.

Fair enough....and given the ridiculous events on the Mexican border today I fully understand....but, in the end...whose fault is that?

Ryan8886 11-11-2010 03:41 PM

I have a lot of years in the criminal justice system...outside...not inside...lol...those were just different times. Different actions and attitudes were accepted more so than today. Those were the real "go-go" days. I've known a lot of bad guys who were a lot of fun to sit and talk to.....one or two played the game back in the day. Love 'em or hate 'em they had a love of the sport and were good boat drivers. As for the rest....business is business...just like everywhere else. They played and they paid....just like all the rest.

Interceptor 11-11-2010 04:50 PM

Whenever there's discussion about the old school drug associates that frequented the type boats we like I get the feeling there are a lot of wannabes around also.
Anyone that thinks a person who was involved in drug dealing at a very hight level can be a nice guy away from work isn't thinking clearly. Drugs do kill and the suppliers are killers also.

HTRDLNCN 11-11-2010 05:02 PM

Some things are better left in the past.


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