Never did, never happened you are correct. But the drug addict whose life is controlled by drugs will hold the gun to your head, and will pull the trigger. Crack is cocaine, crack addicts can be violent in order to get their next high; go into Camden NJ and test this hypothesis. Good luck in the results of your research.

The more you know about addiction the clearer the picture will be. I do understand and appreciate your point, it does make sense.

So I really do not care if he was a good guy away from the business, that is irrelevant; and a great offshore boat racer, if you are dealing illegal drugs/distribution, you are not making the world a better place.

So when they come a knocking for ya (criminals), it is time to take your medicine (incarcertion). I'd rather see a defendant do time, than rat out his associates, but that is another thread, and I have my reasons for that position. So I will give my due respect to Sal Maglutta for not ratting/snitching. I remember him racing, and yes he was good.

Is there a chewing tobbaco addict anywhere that you know of:evilb:Get real money is the root to all evil you want to put high school year book pictures of the pain inflicted ones??:bsflag:

I agree, its your own free will to do what you want, theres no privacy left in America. Always someone watching.. Regardless of whoever gets caught selling drugs there will be another dealer lined up.. They will never stop the flow of drugs just lock up people for selling and using drugs..People do get killed but they put themselves in harms way or tried to get in other peoples business or didnt do honest business.

I'm referring to our complete lack of border security......not some lofty societal issue. I am basically pragmatic...if you give weak people an opportunity and an easy way, the majority will take that route.... "The path of least resistance".

Sal and Willie and Ben and the rest catered to a market begat in the "swinging 60's", a time that saw the disolution of a lot of America's fundamental moral code. (to me that was a mixed bag...we lost a lot of Victorian prudishness, but the price was the simultaneous loss of class, family, and self restraint). They were aided by some sleazy government activities in Latin America, and the media supported love for Marijuana (Cheech and Chong, Rock Stars, Woodstock, etc). I believe that Marijuana does lead to Coke, Horse, and the rest. These guys were opportunistic crooks who saw the market and filled it..........end of story.

The government could have stopped it cold, but , since there are a lot of tokers and sniffers in the halls of Washington, the major media, and show biz....that was out of the question.


Today they (we) reap what was sown back then with Mexican cartels murdering our citizens, generations lost to glue sniffing, speed balling, and crack dens, and billions of our tax dollars wasted on picking up the pieces after the fact.

To me an ounce of prevention in 1964 would have been worth a ton of cure today. But Goldwater lost to Johnson and the "Great Society" continues to slide downhill to this day, championed by Obama, Boxer, Barney Frank, et al, all of whom make Sal and Willie look like altar boys .

By the way...you may recall a fellow named Franklin Delano Roosevelt...beloved by many (not me...but many)....? His middle name "Delano" came from his mother's side of the family. The Delano's were among America's richest families and made their fortune in the late 19th and earlier 20th centuries. The fortune came from importing Cocaine..(legally back then)...and selling it to among others...The Coca Cola Company. (you could look it up). This goes right along with how the Kennedy's made their dough...... smuggling during Prohibition. Don't ever try and gloss over the commonality between our top politicians and organized criminal activity.

Getting back to the "boys"....hate the game...... not the player.

Nuff said......

T2x

I don't think anybody is saying that the way these guys made their money was good thing. Obviously they committed very horrific crimes and are paying for that now.

The only thing I can say about any of them is that they were good to me. I had no dealings with them outside of racing so I have no basis to comment on their lives away from the races. When I had my accident in Grand Haven the first person I saw after leaving the hospital was Sal. He was extremely generous and compassionate and he and Bob Kaiser offered to help me in any way they could. I can condemn him for his business, but not the way he was when he was at a race site.

I have always respected your opinion and still do, your post is very well put.

I do not like the game, and I do not like the players, the players can choose another game. An addict that is deep in addiction has lost the power to say no, until jail, institution, or death occurs, unless the miracle of recovery begins, and that can happen too.

If I were bron 20 years earlier, I would have been a defendant along with that kind of crowd, but I choose to defend them and get paid that way..

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Sorry, I can not decipher this.

Me either.......

But he seems very passionate.... :D

Agreed 100%!