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Originally Posted by catastrophe
(Post 3253242)
I think this is the single comment that most on here are reacting to.
Oh yeah...one more thing...they really were a lot of fun to be around.....and could flat out drive race boats like nobody's business. The thread was about them, not the sermonizers. No one cares about whether the people that commented on your post are " good ". That wasnt the point. Well......they weren't boring to be around...and nobody ran out of the pits in protest at their presence...and they beat a lot of good racers..... What part of my sentence is untrue? This thread has angered a bunch of people getting their knickers in a wad about a period in Offshore racing that featured smugglers racing in the top echelon of the sport. This is a high performance boating web site, and the story concerns some guys in Offshore racing, who added to the notoriety of the sport.......This was never a sport for chorus boys........ If you object to those facts, or are somehow offended by them...I repeat...what does that make you....good? T2x |
I think all of the high and mighty on here are just a little pissed off that they missed the glory days of this sport. Those days were great. The characters are what made the sport. And yes, they were a blast to be around. Fact is, they were great racers. Without their infusion of illegal money, many of the advances in boat racing technology would not have happened. They are in jail. They did horrific things. They also made the sport very popular.
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I'd love to pick Sal & Willy's heads, about how deep they were in with Pablo Escobar & the Medelin Cartel. They both had to be damn near a part of the family, with how much product they were running for THEIR supplier.
Obviously that would never happen, but I love to read up on those old drug cartels & the people involved. Those guys definitely made offshore racing much more competitive & noticable. Even though I don't agree with their choice of business any more than the rest of you guys, I am glad that they loved powerboats, & poured a lot of their money into them. Those races never get old to watch from those days. |
I have to admit those guys and others put a lot of money into offshore, CART and IMSA racing.
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Originally Posted by smokeybandit
(Post 3253356)
I think all of the high and mighty on here are just a little pissed off that they missed the glory days of this sport. Those days were great. The characters are what made the sport. And yes, they were a blast to be around. Fact is, they were great racers. Without their infusion of illegal money, many of the advances in boat racing technology would not have happened. They are in jail. They did horrific things. They also made the sport very popular.
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I haven't seen on here anywhere where the sermonizers are against what BK or DW or any Number of others who started Boat companies with Weed money. is only the Jejo they have a problem with??????
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Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 3251598)
Drugs did not build offshore racing, that is an insane comment. Dr. Bob Magoon, Bill Wisnick, Rockiy Aoki, Earl Lannier, Art Norris....that is to name a few, they were successful racers not due to drug money....Drug Money did not build the sport.
MidOcean, Those who take drugs when they are in active addiction typically cannot stop once they start, as far as a "willing participants", the choice is not as "free will" as you imply. Casual and recreational drug users, yes they are willing participants, not doubt there. Hard core drug addicts are participants, but the grip of addiction has them bottled up. Fact not fiction. I read the casting of stones Biblical reference, and I certainly do not live in a glass house, but, what the hell, if you deal drugs, then you are wrecking lives...this is a not a complex concept to grasp. Sal, Willy and Gus were NOT street dealers... you understand this right? They were smugglers. Before the drugs, the magoons, Lanniers, etc...etc. were just guys who were having a good time in the open ocean. It was the drug trade that put Cigarette on the financial map and Miami Vice on television screens across the country which is how many of today's followers were introduced. |
If this sport was built on drug money(which I disagree with), then NASCAR was built on running illegal moonshine. I'm interseted to hear what NASCAR fans have to say about that? Care to debate the societal woes of alcohol abuse/addiction and the sport that was created around supplying the "users". It has been said that a LARGE proportion of early mechanics, car owners, drivers, promoters and track owners had deep ties to bootlegging. How about your NASCAR heros? Should they be forever vilified?
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Originally Posted by Sean
(Post 3253496)
If this sport was built on drug money(which I disagree with), then NASCAR was built on running illegal moonshine. I'm interseted to hear what NASCAR fans have to say about that? Care to debate the societal woes of alcohol abuse/addiction and the sport that was created around supplying the "users". It has been said that a LARGE proportion of early mechanics, car owners, drivers, promoters and track owners had deep ties to bootlegging. How about your NASCAR heros? Should they be forever vilified?
To me there is very little difference between drugs and alcohol. NASCAR heros? I don't have any. Never got into it. |
Originally Posted by MidOcean
(Post 3253498)
NASCAR has something Offshore will never have. Relatability. Most Americans have cars. Most DO NOT have 40' boats in their back yard.
To me there is very little difference between drugs and alcohol. NASCAR heros? I don't have any. Never got into it. |
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