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1HYPER1 03-03-2003 06:45 PM

New Suburbans
 
Does anyone have one of the new Chevrolet Suburbans,what is your input on the 2500 and what engine is it best to go with,the 8100 or the 6.0.Also what has been the reliability record for the new trucks,I have a 1996 Suburban at it has been great,I would apreciate any input.Thanks

Byron 03-03-2003 07:06 PM

Excusion powerstroke, It will out pull, out run, better fuel and last longer than the burb. I've had both

Horseplay 03-03-2003 07:06 PM

I have a 2002 3/4 ton 4x4 with the 8.1L engine, 4.10 rear gear, and love it. Much better truck than the older model, and the 8.1 is way better than the 454. Tows great, pulling a Top Gun.

gmhdfan 03-03-2003 07:17 PM

My wife has a new one, She loves it! I have her old one (98) I like the old one better. But just for stupid stuff like the map lights, console, bigger gas tank, and 4X4 looks. The newer one has better brakes. The newer one is lower to the ground which she likes. The new one has back buckets which make the third seat more user freindly. I like the 5.7 motor better than the 5.3. A freind has a 6.0 pickup truck and loves it. Pulls anything he has ever asked it to do, has the better brakes. (2500HD) But I still like my duelly best. :) :cool:

mcollinstn 03-03-2003 07:21 PM

New Burbs are great, but if you're leaning towards a 2500 I guess you plan to tow with it.

If you liked the 350/2500 in the old style and it served your purposes well enough as far as power, then you'll want the 6.0
and 4.11's

The 8.1 is a roaring gas hog. Runs and pulls great, though. Really depends on how often you tow.

Powerstroke Excursion is a fantastic towing machine.

Go test drive everything to determine how well you can tolerate the ride of the Excursion (it's rough). The Suburban rides much better.

Pay attention to the gas mileage stickers. They don't lie. And on the Suburban, adding decent looking tires will yank another 1 mpg out of it.

Byron 03-03-2003 07:26 PM

My 2500 454 suburban with 70,000 miles seemed worn out. Brakes, steering suspension. My Excursion with now 90,000 seems to be perfectly fine. I've ran it hard, towed all over with $14,000 lbs and still fine. I'm not a ford fan but just the facts.

goob 03-03-2003 08:15 PM

I work with two guys that have identicle trucks, one has 6.0 the other has 8.1. They both pull campers and they both compared mpg towing. The 8.1 gets @ 3-4 better towing but the 6.0 gets gets @ 2-3 without.
Mike

fountain1fan 03-03-2003 08:30 PM

ambush tha gas hog might be faster but it willnot ought pull the x your ifs will brake long befor the x dana 60 will what is the mpg on your sub

fountain1fan 03-03-2003 08:55 PM

ambush you are 100% correct on the ride the ifs rides better and imm not a ford fan but i like my solid axel i did not know that gm had a alum diff housing till the other day i had to put a reciver hitch on one of the local fire trucks

1HYPER1 03-03-2003 10:27 PM

Hey guys,
I have a Ford F 350 with a 7.3 DI and a chip,I have also added propane injection and a jake brake,NOTHING will out tow it and I dont care what you are driving.I am just curious about the Suburbans because when you travel long distances with the wife and kids the extra room has always been nice to have and the Excursion rides like my Dually and that is not very comfortable to go long distances in.Also on many of those trips the boat is along for the ride.

Sydwayz 03-03-2003 10:38 PM

I have the 2500 Avalanche, same exact running gear as 2500 burb, with 8.1, M32, and 4.10. I am extremely happy.

wannabe 03-03-2003 10:53 PM

Suburban All The Way
 
The Excursion is a dead vehicle. It is being discontinued so resale will be really bad.

The 4 wheel steer in the 2500 Sub. is really neat and makes for a manuevverable vehicle. The 6.0 w/ 4.11 will pull almost anythin unless your boat & trailer weigh over 10,500 lbs than g4et the 8.1.

The dealers should have big rebates on these things.

Wannabe

ScalpTaker36 03-03-2003 10:57 PM

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gmhdfan 03-03-2003 11:22 PM


Originally posted by 1HYPER1
Hey guys,
I have a Ford F 350 with a 7.3 DI and a chip,I have also added propane injection and a jake brake,NOTHING will out tow it and I dont care what you are driving.I am just curious about the Suburbans because when you travel long distances with the wife and kids the extra room has always been nice to have and the Excursion rides like my Dually and that is not very comfortable to go long distances in.Also on many of those trips the boat is along for the ride.

You hit the nail right on the head!! With twin 6 yr olds the back seat of the dually isn't far enough back. For trips we strap the tv/vcr combo between the rear buckets in the burb and put the kids in the third seat with headphones. Never here "are we there yet" once! The burb parks well at the mall and FITS through the car wash. Nothing could replace my dually when it comes to working (running motors, home repair stuff, gas cans, pool supplies) You guys keep talking about your powerstroke motors and I just don't know what you see in them? I have a new F450 wheel lift wrecker we us for repos and I'm not impressed with the pulling power and thats just with a car on the back. It has 19.5 tires and almost tachs 3000 RPM's running down the highway? With diesle almost $2.00 a gallon, I would rather drive my big block chevy truck. But the burb is a great all around truck. :) :cool:

Sunrise Girl 03-04-2003 08:43 AM

1Hyper1,
I have the '02 3/4 ton 4x4 with the 8.1 in it (along with the chip & Borla exhaust) and I love it! I'm a petite person and am able to handle that truck with no problem! Like gmhdfan's truck, I also have the bucket seats which the kids love. I would recommend this vehicle to anyone interested in an SUV! We also use it to tow the '31 Scarab with no problem!

Cat

SummerObsession 03-04-2003 08:48 AM

I would love to have a 2500 Sub with a Duramax. I jsut bought a 2500HD with a chip in it and it is absolutely awesome. Mileage on the highway is slightly over 18 mpg. I haven't towed with it yet, so I don't know mileage there.
I can, at will, out run nearly anything on the street. (muscle cars excepted of course, but Fast and furious type rice junkers don't stand a chance!)

I think we all need to e-mail GM and implore them to build a duramax/allison sub! With Ford quitting the X, I would certainly think there is a market in the future. If anyone knows a link to GM marketing, please post it!!

jdnca1 03-04-2003 10:18 AM

I have an 01 2500 8.1L with 4.10 gears. The truck runs great but it is thirsty, 10.5-11MPG is all in town. The new truck is a big improvement over the 97 2500 7.4L I had before. GM finally fixed the brakes! :rolleyes: The 97 had 200K on it and still did not burn a drop of oil, if you figure an average of 40MPH that motor had 5,000 hrs on it. Not bad for a gas motor.

For what I tow (mid weights) I would get the 3.73 gear with the 8.1L for some added fuel economy if I were doing it again. A Stock Powerstroke will not come close to staying with the 8100 empty...sorry guys:p I know from plenty of experience:D

obnoxus 03-04-2003 10:36 AM

WAIT !!!!!!!!!!! GM is going to put the Duramax in the 2500 'burban soon,,,thats my next vehicle.


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