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SPWilson 03-05-2003 11:13 PM

OT: INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES amount to torture!
 
NEW YORK (CNN) -- The human rights group Amnesty International said Wednesday that interrogation techniques used on suspected September 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and on other alleged terrorists amount to torture.

"Despite claims to the contrary by U.S. officials, the use of sensory deprivation (hooding), prolonged physical restraint (shackling) and denial of needed medical care are all characteristic elements of torture, and like psychological torture, are prohibited under international law," the group said in a statement.

WHO'S SIDE ARE THEY ON?
JESUS CHRIST, THEY HAVE BLOWN UP A LOT OF OUR ****, HERE AND OVER-SEAS, THEY KEEP PLANNING ON WAYS TO MESS US UP, PROMISE TO KILL US NO MATTER WHAT, AND THESE *******S SAY THE HAVE RIGHTS?
AM I OUT OF LINE, OR IS IT TIME TO SAY "SCREW YOU, THIS IS OUR LIVES!

ARTICLE

gmhdfan 03-05-2003 11:27 PM

Anything is fair in love and WAR. Do onto others as others do on to us!! Torture would be to good for these scumbags!! Lets ask some American POWS how to handle it!!!

HebertNecessity 03-05-2003 11:50 PM

I hope and believe they have this guy on a high speed sodium penethal drip.
All these leftwing groups ACLU included look at the rights of an indivdual and the hell with everyone elses rights.

gmhdfan 03-06-2003 12:06 AM

I want to see them beating up. Talking from cue cards telling us how much they hate thier leaders and country. I remember seeing this done to some American POW's!!! And then they can send Jesse Jackass over there to get them released!! :( :(

NASTY HABIT 03-06-2003 05:19 AM

F-EM

GLH 03-06-2003 06:20 AM

Re: OT: INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES amount to torture!
 

Originally posted by SPWilson
NEW YORK (CNN) -- The human rights group Amnesty International
Look at the source also CNN.

There beating the crap out of this guy, I'm all broken up about that.;)

AugiePensa 03-06-2003 06:50 AM

Tie him upside-down,let the blood rush to his head....then wack him with a f$%*&^# baseball bat,like they do here in Jersey!!!!!!!Or let the Families that lost loved ones have a little time with him,he'll surely give up any info then.

Shane 03-06-2003 07:02 AM

These left wing wackos PISS ME OFF! Think about this, They try to commit suicide because then they will meet Allah! They died in service to him. So I say, KEEP THE F-U-C-K-E-R-S alive and make 'em suffer! What about the capture and torture of POWS, Wall Street Journal Reporters and downed pilots. Where was amnesty international then? Just another HATE the U.S. group if you ask me. Socialism is alive and well...UNFORTUNATELY!

gmhdfan 03-06-2003 07:33 AM


Originally posted by A.Pensa
Tie him upside-down,let the blood rush to his head....then wack him with a f$%*&^# baseball bat,like they do here in Jersey!!!!!!!

Augie, you need stop spending so much time at the Badabing Club.:D :cool:

Pete:)

WesSmith 03-06-2003 07:35 AM

Lets just send the Amnesty International folks to Baghdad to serve as "human shields"...that way they can protect these people first hand.

388Hustler 03-06-2003 07:48 AM

I vote we bury all the terrorists responsible for 9/11 alive in concrete in the foundation of the new World Trade Center Buildings...

LapseofReason 03-06-2003 08:16 AM

I vote we make them build the new WTC then pour them into the side walk so everybody walks on them.Or put them in pison and let everybody know who they are, they be a nice ***** for somebody for about a week.Then kill them.

kitten 03-06-2003 08:22 AM

Al Qaeda, Hamas and associated terrorists of the world are out to get the US in a big way. They proved with the Sept 11 attack that they are capable of a major strike. This just whetted their appetite for an escalation to the next level. There is a strong likelihood that the next level will be a similar attack that takes out many, many more than 2,800 people, leaves long-lasting damage. They will take their time, and likely go for a strike that will try to take out a major US city. It could be a dirty bomb, with combination radiation and/or biological agents, exploded near a major city, such as from a container ship in the Hudson River, or San Francisco or Baltimore harbors. It would not even have to be unloaded,
and we don't have the technology to detect it in advance. And they are likely to have several such strikes in the works, in case one or two are discovered.

We are talking about a "first strike" by them that will, for all practical purposes, seem like a last strike to us.
It will do so much damage to our economy, and
several hundred thousand people, that the war
is over as far as the terrorists are concerned,
and they won! We will only be left to wonder who
did it and who to bomb in retaliation.

So the notion that we are not a "first strike" country becomes a death sentence for us, if we allow this to happen first, before we take action.

The terrorists will have a very difficult time pulling this off without the help of a small industrial complex. The current providers of such a complex to the terrorists are Syria, Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

From among these, Iraq and North Korea have the least stable leadership, and Iraq is the one with the most proven attempts to develop weapons of the type that terrorists would like to have.

It is reasonable to think that our national leaders believe that we must prove to all these countries that we are not going to sit by waiting on Armageddon. We need to stop the terrorist supporters now, and we need to show the other terrorist supporters what is in store for them if we feel
we need to hit them to protect our national interests.

Terrorists have no allegiance to a particular country, so they don't
fear retaliation by the US. The old cold-war standoff is no longer
operative. The terrorists probably consider a nuclear retaliation against one or more of these supporting countries just the cost of war. They, and their supporting countries, also know that the US will not just heave a few nukes onto a Baghdad in retaliation, killing a couple of million innocent civilians.

The terrorists are also not members of the UN.
Our discussions there are just a comedy to the terrorists.

So the US must act now in every way possible to stop the possibility of such an attack against the US. Part of that action is to deny the terrorists the support of these rogue countries. If a rogue country's leadership is so unstable that they might sell/give the terrorists the weapons, then we must stop it now. Iraq is such a country. A measured, non-nuclear attack on Iraq may cause the others to cease their support of the terrorists in such a dangerous way. It also may cause the least civilian casualties of all the alternatives.

We must make it clear to the terror-supporting countries that there will be a price to pay, and that a nuclear retaliation, which we are unlikely to use, is not the only option open to us.

I think President Bush understands he cannot let a first strike happen, and that nuclear retaliation is no longer a threat.
We must go after the terrorists, and their supporters and suppliers, now.

A history lesson~~ Do you know why the US was in such a rush to develop
the atomic bomb in WWII? It's not because we simply wanted such a weapon
It's because concerned physicists, including German refugee, Albert
Einstein, warned Roosevelt in writing that the Germans had the most
capable physicist in the field of nuclear physics, Nobel Prize winner,
Werner Heisenberg, and he was known to have a laboratory working on
such a device. We knew what would happen if Hitler was the first to have
such a weapon. Think about it.

I believe we are in a similar race today against the terrorists. The war has begun, so the "don't go to war" crowd apparently has a misunderstanding of what we are up against. We are at war today. Our country was similarly divided just before Pearl Harbor and our entry into WWII. Another modern day "Pearl Harbor" is likely a surprise that is unacceptable to us.
:mad: :mad: :mad: ACT NOW!

Shorty 03-06-2003 08:29 AM

It's only torture if they're doing it right! :D

HyperBaja 03-06-2003 08:33 AM

What comes around, goes around. We should beat them with a hammer.

Brad Perry 03-06-2003 08:34 AM

Well put, Kitten.

Miller 03-06-2003 08:47 AM

Whatever it takes is WHATEVER IT TAKES! The reason we have some degree of safety is because dangerous men stand ready to inflict unspeakable acts upon those that threaten our security. I do not besmirch those men for the acts they need inflict in defense of my country, freedom, liberty and life. They don't enjoy it. They do what it takes, no more, no less.

florida gator 03-06-2003 09:27 AM

Which is why we need to interogate them overseas. If we bring them here, they will end up in a country club prison living better than many of our own citizens.

26scarab 03-06-2003 10:19 AM

They should peel the skin from the soles of thier feet and make them walk around in a room full of rock salt.
And that's just for starters.
Start asking questions and every time he refuses to answer cut off a body part ,starting with his toes. Make sure you have a blow torch handy to cauterize the wound... don't want him to bleed to death.
These people will not stop...

Kitten ,
you paint a scary picture, that is why these people need to be delt with harshly.

Sonic30ss 03-06-2003 10:22 AM

Liberal pinko ***s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!F"EM, sorry I get a little riled up when I think back to that HORRIBLE Sept. day when humans of ALL NATIONALITYS were burned,chrushed, and horror of all horrors FORCED to jump ONE HUNDRED SEVEN stories(thats 1000 + feet) to their death.
I for one would not want to bother with these people, BUT THEY BROUGHT THE FIGHT TO US, do what ever has to be done no matter how ugly it gets. Lets just get it over with so we can get on with life, I think this is the best tribute we can give ALL those that have sufferd and died for what we have in this country.
The next time one of these Liberal Commie pinkos passes a cemetary and sees a small american flag on a grave I hope thay say"thank you" Forthe oportunity to whine like a school girl about the treatment of SWORN ENEMIES TO ME AND MY WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!!!
I feel better now!

Smittymarine 03-06-2003 10:26 AM

Load them all in a jetliner and slam them into Bagdad. Sell cable vision for the event give the proceeds to the families of fallen hero's Just my 2 Cents

TulsaLarry 03-06-2003 10:41 AM

In Vietnam, the prisoners that talked while riding in the helicopters were allowed seatbelts, those that didn't talk did not get seatbelts. Was that torture? :D

Chris288 03-06-2003 11:04 AM


Originally posted by 26scarab
They should peel the skin from the soles of thier feet and make them walk around in a room full of rock salt.


can you say OUCH !!! i'm in pain just thinking about that !! :eek: :eek:

Allan4 03-06-2003 11:10 AM

Kitten, very well said.

SPWilson, you are not at all out of line.

Look folks, this Amnesty Intl stuff should not surprise anyone, it is left wing radicalness at it's finest. The list of groups and people who financially support and donate to these groups would SHOCK you. This is the same stuff that conservatives have been gripping about for years. It's lunacy. They have a political agenda and are right on schedule. Infact, I'm surprised they waited this long to say something. Keep in mind the anger and aggrivations you feel right now and apply that to the next time you see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton spouting off. They do the EXACT same things, use the EXACT same tactics. It is opportunism and extortion, for personal political gain. It's disgusting, they disregard the well being of an entire nation and force THEIR views down your throat. Is that Democracy??

I hope that people remember the acts of treason these groups and people are commiting. THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF PEOPLE!!! Get involved, write your congressman, speak out!!!! IT is OUR COUNTRY!!!!!

One more reason to VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!!

http://mygov.governmentguide.com/myg...ommand=congdir

This is the page where you can look up your congressman and e-mail him or her.

SPEAK UP AMERICA, IT'S TIME TO GIVE BACK TO THE USA

Airpacker 03-06-2003 11:54 AM

Tell them to complain to the Lybian head of the United Nations Human Rights Commision. Oh wait,was that sarcastic enough?

THRILLSEEKER 03-06-2003 01:25 PM

torture/interrogation bla bla bla its all the same. I think that the extremity should be decided by the crime;)

In the case of terrorist interrogation I think that nailing the testicles to a naked induvidual sitting on a tree stump and then pushing them over backwards is comparable to a beating w/a feather pillow:rolleyes: :D I can think of much more horrific ways to extract needed information:crazy:


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