Damn, and I did some AWSOME post whoring yesterday too. :mad: Oh well, as long as Audiofn and Troutly lost posts too. :D

G FORCE, TOO OLD, how about you b i t c h slap leopajm and not the tribe:eek:

I voted no, but I guess you already figured that out when I could not believe someone woud be so stupid to delete 2 days of posts/threads just to recover one thread. As I said before in another post I hope OSO has it blocked so the person can not delete it again or we will be out even more days of posts/threads.

Sure glad OSO is not in charge of our office software.

Uhh... because leopajm didn't bring the thread back at the expense of two days of posts? I'm just reachin' here I know...:rolleyes:

What if the thread erased was T2X's. The ones about cat history or v-hulls. Are we sure it was Apaches:confused:confused: :confused:

...I asked at what point the person who initiated the thread lost his right to delete it.
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First off the thread started as a jab at Wilson and me earlier….. but it really evolved into something its own entity and a thing of real beauty and became addicting I Really looked foreword every day to it.

What’s his name lost his right to kill it when the thread gained its own LIFE after the first week I would say.

Not mentioning the input and hard work from the OSO Members and Apache Owners the pictures history and so on that this guy just felt he could throw in the trash...

The Apache thread is a complete history book not some passing thread!! Who would in their right mind would burn a book??

The Thread did not belong to the starter it belongs to us all !We put the work into it..

I give up. in about a month this thread will be forgotten.All of you complaining now will be surfing the apache thread :p

G-Force give me the name of a thread that has been in constantly on the board for the past 8 months NOT 2 DAYS that was deleted out of spite ……….

I am waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go complain to leprosy he did it!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

;)

whats up with that? is someone altering the poll? seems like someone may be going thru a lot of trouble to increase the votes! And no, it's not me!

It is probably leopajm stuffing the box:eek:

Wilson you see the Indians always get blamed!!

I agree Warpaint that trouble maker is trying to cause more problems

I voted yes.

I also believe that these "super threads" like T2X's two "super threads" should be brought under administrator control so this "issue" doesn't raise it's ugly head again where the thread starter won't delete it out of the blue. Actually, many many other boards don't allow a "user" to delete a thread, only an administator or moderator.

Nort:)

i should probably stay out of this being im just a Joe Sixpack with a POS boat compared to alot of members here BUT since i paid for a gold membership i have a right to voice my opinion.

losing 2 days of posting (not my post) might REALLY cause a few some hardship by loosing contact info (someone mentioned props) but most of it can be REPOSTED with a liitle effort.

i read part of the apache thread and have to agree with STEVE 1.
it was more of a history book then a forum thread and should be preserved for history sake. i would be surprized if someone hasnt started writing a book from the info in that thread. wouldnt that suck to lose your source of info after writing for six monthes.

there is defenatly a cligue here and probably always will be since its really an OFF SHORE ONLY site.(big ass powerfull multi hundred thousand dollar boats)

do i belong here? probably not , but the education and info keeps me here.

OSO , FIX THE POLL CHEATING PLEASE.

WOW, HOW QUICKLY THE TONE CHANGES!

And "PhantomChaos" is 110% Right!

I also was under the impression cashbrain was the chief of war party 03:confused:

Loto nicely done… You understand !:)

Hey wait a minute ..... WAS Leopajamas name on Part 2 as the STARTER?????

I don't think it was ???????

:eureka:

Cigarette it was !!

Ok, I guess so .... I remembered some confusion a while back.

Thanks

You just don't see it do you?
Does it matter how long a thread is up? I don't think so.
Does it matter how many posts are up on a thread? I don't think so.
Does it matter why it was deleted? I don't think so.

The thread wasn't yours, or anyone else's to keep. YOU didn't originate it. Did you contribute - certainly. Does that make it yours? NO.
Now, that fact having been blatently stated, I will not even comment on your hippie, free love, feel good writings...good Christ someone get me a frikkin' tissue:
but it really evolved into something its own entity and a thing of real beauty and became addicting I Really looked foreword every day to it.
(sniff, sniff)

Having pointed out that the thread wasn't yours to decide what to do with, let's move on to the other issue:

OSO members took the time and effort to either start their own threads, or contribute to posts that are now gone. What makes you for one second think that thread you are you hyped about means a frikkin' thing to them? Because it was long? Because it was viewed a lot? Because it's been around a while?
WRONG. It doens't mean squat.
That thread isn't any more important than the one right under it (whatever that thread may be on any given day). It's not the unsaved writings of Shakespeare....although to hear you pontificate you'd think the secrets of the world were revealed somewhere in that thread.
So to minimize the importance of what everyone else contributed to the OSO boards for 2 days vs. the holy grail of Apache info is bullsh!t.
How many members actually contributed to that Apache thread?
How many members had posts/threads that disappeared? I'm betting a lot more people than are involved in the Apache thread.

We see how you can "beat the system" relating to the poll. We will fix the problem. As far as the rest of what is being said here, I am amazed.

There were 21 votes for Yes and 62 votes for No. 6 for No Opinion.

Amazed that 21 people actually think that thread is more important than anyone eles's posts?;)

And thanks for fixing the poll....sad to see that Apache fans have to cheat in order to win. Not all of you...but those that did cheat know they are losers.

Why do you thing the vote is being manipulated?

I got home from work, had dinner, checked OSO and voted yes.
I wouldn't want to lose a bit if the info that was on that thread! Most of the treads that were lost were started in the last week at most. If it's that important to you, start a thread with the same topic. Most people can remeber back a week.

We contacted Leopajm after all the concerns about the thread missing to see if it was a mistake or a technical problem since the thread was so big (possible the system rejecting it). There was more than just Apache history in that thread. We never heard back from him so we decided to bring it back. For those of you that are mad, we apologize for our mistake as seen through your eyes. With this many people you will never make everyone happy.

G-Force I am not a ****ing hippy about the furthest thing from it you could ever imagine also I work in the back of the shop we do not get judged in any personality contests there only Merit...

As for the Apache thread I did not delete it!!!!!! Was I upset YES...Am I glad it is back HELL YES!!

And in your rant I still got no answer!!! To what other thread was spitefully deleted after 8 months of constantly being on the board and almost 130,000 Views?? And I await that revelation.

Yes the thread it is a personal thing with me!! As for the other threads I gave two examples of tripe no other.

I Voted no but I am really torn. I could not take the time to fallow the Apache thread as it grew so fast. I did scan it every now and again to look at the pictures and there was definatly some good stuff. HOWEVER equaly good was a bunch of other threads that took a hit. Ones that also interested me quite a bit like the 500 buck steering thread and a lot of For sale stuff is now gone. Is one more valuable then the other? I do not think so but hey that is just me. :D:D OSO made a decision and we all will have to live with it. In a couple weeks we will all forget that this ever happened and move on. :D:D

Jon

Your right Jon.

We just need spring to hurry up and get here.

Old, there is no way to tell who manipulated the poll as the votes show up as "Guest" when you have to be registered to vote. There is a way around this that we found.

As for the other issues let's all play nice. There is very little traffic on the weekends and even though every thread and post is important to the participator, we did take the non-peak time in to consideration.

We do not have our settings set like most boards do so that thread starters can't delete their own threads. We have had many occassions where people started a thread while in a bad mood or under the influence and were glad thay had the ability to delete it before too many eyes saw it or waiting for the help of a moderator or admin.

Read what OSO said...[B]There were 21 votes for Yes and 62 votes for No. 6 for No Opinion.[B]
People were manipulating the poll - people who didn't want to see the fact that by a 3:1 margin your fellow OSO brethern were of the opinion that maybe what THEY had to say elsewhere was more important to THEM than a single thread revolving around a very small minority of OSo members.

Steve: [B]As for the Apache thread I did not delete it!!!!!![B]
I don't think anyone said or implied you did delete it.
[B]To what other thread was spitefully deleted after 8 months of constantly being on the board and almost 130,000 Views??[B]
The answer, to the best of my knowledge is none.

What does either your question or my answer have to do with anything I said in my "rant"?
My points are still 100% valid and there is a 3:1 ratio of OSO members who disagree with your viewpoint (and I'm not saying the agree with everything I'm saying). That being the case, an overwhelming majority of OSO members don't particularly agree with you that the Apache post is worth 2 days of everyone eles's efforts.
Take that for what you may - the members have voted.

Fred I gave two examples of threads (liberal) I feel are/were worthless no other!! As those were the only ones I was posting on across on the weekend. And there were four or five of them!!

Anyone else who lost a thread (aside from the Commies) I am sorry I know how it feels!

Now show me one time where I have been disrespectful to a member who has asked me a boat related question .I have always prided myself on trying to be helpful that’s what this brotherhood is all about here. Right!

G-Force, you are right I see it was maniupulated. I was reading the page and then posting while OSO anounced this. There is only 5 min between our posts. I guess I'm a slow reader.

Life goes on................:)

Opinions are like a$$holes and I got one so take a gander at this redeye:

OSO is not a democracy. It's a BoardGodocracy. #2 made a call. He thought it in the best interest of the site. The past two days posts should still be fresh in your minds and could easily be replicated. Can the same be said for a thread that was built over 8 months by several hundred people? I firmly believe that you lose the right to delete such an epic thread when it grows to the magnitude of the Apache thread. So, in response to your next question, what defines epic and when does a thread reach such a status, there can be no hard and fast rule. Dare I say it should be like the law and built on a case by case basis :eek: (Insert favorite lawyer joke here and then get over yourself). We mere mortal post whores and lurkers do not have the benefit of hearing the whinning of folks who get drunk or angry or petty and post a regrettable statement then call BG#2 and beg him to delete the thread. To avoid this, the Gods have given us mortals the power to correct mistakes. Was the Apache thread a mistake? I think not. So, if the true intention of the delete option afforded all of us is to correct, destroy, and/or remove erroneous, slanderous, and/or regrettable posts, then was the use of the delete feature on the Apache thread appropriate? This phkn guy votes NO to the right to delete the thread and YES to BG's responsible decision to resurect the thread at the cost of two days worth of pedestrian posts. We'll just have to restart those can't miss "OT: AMC Gremlin or Ford Pinto Pole" posts once again. OK, kevlar helmet is now in place, commence bashing.

:D :D :D :D

Spoken like a true Phknlwyr. AMEN bro!!!:) :cool:

Phknlwyr Nicely said !!

Sobak Cool bro!!
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