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Who's Smarter? by Cindy Osborne
The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush
Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet
every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them
and call them names like "stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to
tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.
So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the
biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities
who are castigating them:
President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an
MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air
National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and
worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8,
1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first
Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998
winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic
vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of
women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other
than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the
heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo.
(Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other
President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see
the truth.)
Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political
science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association
congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with
individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to
strengthen our >economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his
official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital
Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the
Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand
the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military,
and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.
Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools,
graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's
Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as
an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic
achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George
Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign
military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two
Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold
Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy
Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in
his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the
country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship
(AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional
Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69;
Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of
the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of
Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House
Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense,

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans'
public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in
1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S.
Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star
for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private
practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to
Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S.
House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political
Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her
Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate
School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled
at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in
Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre
Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International
Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of
the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates
from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University
of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for
International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International
Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include
Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev
Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East
European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging
from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the
1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the
period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the
Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European
Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for
National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on
Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender --Integrated
Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron
Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett
Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P.
Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding
Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for
schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the
Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has
encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the
Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand
Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the
Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born
November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs
of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express
their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our
leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting
Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting
Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting
Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting
Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career: Acting
Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting
Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting
Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America inWashington,
D.C. Career: Acting
Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting
George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting
Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director
Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting
Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting
Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting
Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne
Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting
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While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also
remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War
on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the
world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and
terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the
FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around
the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because
we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight
into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated
hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood
elitists detest Conservative views nd anything that supports or uplifts the United States of
America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a
pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in
1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and
not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18
young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after
our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by
freedom-hating terrorists, while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies
against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the
White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group
aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE
ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any
further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even
after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is
very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to
disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass
destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used
against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw
such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation?
That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have
the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a
"good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking
for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just
weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the
knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and
speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per
year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give
him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own
lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the
law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an
entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen
and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond
memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world
around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers
bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live
without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation
remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware
of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands,
singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf
Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent
our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for,
and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships
from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them
with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end
the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald
Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
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ok... that is just WAY to long... dont ya have the readers digest version availible?
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I don't get it, just because they got lucky because some other lucky ass put them in a movie or on TV now they know everything about everything, like there isn't 200 other people that could do what they do just as good or better. I don't think there is too many people out there that can do what our guy's are doing in DC for us now. I'am thank full for Bush and the people he chose for his cabinet, we could of limped threw 4 more democratic year's with Gore unless we went to war, I don't think he would have gone to the lengths to get the caliber of people that Bush did. And if having $$$$ makes you smart, just look at what these guys are worth!!! And they made it working for it not acting for it.
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TOO LONG!!!!! Were can I get the paperback?
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I think a trained monkey is smarter than some of the actors/actresses you mentioned
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