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ScalpTaker36 04-14-2003 08:44 PM

Does my new Apache need a nose fuel tank?
 
The 2003 36 Warrior comes with a 200 Gallon main tank.

I have an option to install a 70 Gallon fuel tank up in the nose.

Does it effect my ride?

is 200 Gallons enough?

from what I understand it is not a popular option, but now is the cheapest time to install it.

I do like to run a few poker runs....

Need some input here!!!

Back4More 04-14-2003 09:04 PM

i would think 200 gal. would be enough...what power/motors does it have?
the more weight up front slows you down.
i also thought the forward tanks were prone to cracking.

ScalpTaker36 04-14-2003 09:53 PM

Twin 575's

These are the "all new" alluminum tanks that "don't" crack

I only need to put fuel in the front when I will need it. Maybe I'll never use it.

Sydwayz 04-14-2003 10:11 PM

I would absolutely put it in.

You have two options:
1) Have it completely hooked in and operational, and never use it.

2) Have them run the lines, and not install transfer pumps or anything. Make sure they drill and tap the bow tank and saddle tanks for the ability to install the pumps and transfer lines in the future. They might even be able to omit the thru hull (deck) fuel fill fitting; but that might take too much work to future install.

200 gallons is over 1200# of gasoline when topped off, and give the placement of those tanks, and the motors back there; that is a heavy ass. I know the boat is sweet and well designed, as I saw the Miami Show example. However, twin BBCs, 3-200# guys across the back seat, and a long Poker Run first leg, and you may look like a displacement hull. Anything you can do to offset the weight might help you, i.e. 420# in the bow.

You may want to cross to Bimini one day from SoFla, and you can never be too safe on fuel amounts. Not sure how you plan to boat, but buying gas on the street is A LOT cheaper than the marina, so I would top off ALL tanks before dropping in for extended weekends.

You may go with bigger power one day.

The next owner might want bigger power.

You could use it for fresh water if you want; or beer even.

MitchStellin 04-14-2003 10:11 PM

It would make a nice ballast tank if not for fuel, maybe water. There were many times I wish I had some extra weight in the bow, especially when the fuel tank was 1/2 to 1/4 full (empty). It would balance the boat better and in rough seas would keep the bow down so I could use more trim and/or less tab. It would not hurt to install it that is for sure and now is the time. You would have to figure a way to fill and purge it but that could be worked out later. It works for race boats.:D 200 gallons at a conservative 1mpg should get you anywhere you need to go.

Sydwayz 04-14-2003 10:15 PM

P.S.

Bob S.
I have considered a career in selling boats.
:D :D

ScalpTaker36 04-14-2003 10:47 PM

I kinda of like the beer idea :-)

Bobby is gonna call me tomorrow with the price.

I had a 275 Gal. tank in my 38 ZX with 525's and I was always on empty.

LapseofReason 04-15-2003 07:17 AM

After I ran out of gas 5 miles from Nassau and had to get towed to the gas dock, I would put it in. Plus if you do ever go to the Bahamas it might be nice to have some extra weight in the boat up front to help the nose stay down in big waves in the gulf stream. If you need to run 92 oct. or higher and are going someplace that you are not sure they have it, it will be nice to load up before you leave.

Zero Cavity 04-15-2003 07:32 AM

Get the bow tank, I have one and I feel safer knowing I have the extra fuel plus it acts as an ballast in rough water.

ChrisK 04-15-2003 08:25 AM

I was going to say something... But I think you have your answer!

searace 04-15-2003 08:52 AM

Your boat is basically a 35 Cigarette. It utilizes the same hydrostatic/ stability dimensions. Most of the older 35 Mistresses and Awesomes had bow tanks and they were effect in balancing the boat in the dynamic ranges also.. I would go for it if I were you.

Back4More 04-15-2003 09:21 AM

Sounds like about some good reason for....I guess would do it.

ScalpTaker36 04-15-2003 02:38 PM

Seems it's unanimous!!


The yeas have it.

Little Tommy 04-15-2003 02:50 PM

I have both tanks in my '36 apache. Would'nt want to be without it. It is nice to have the extra weight in the nose at times. I say have Bobby put it in. You won't regreat it. Tommy

ScalpTaker36 04-15-2003 03:26 PM

How's Kathy feeling?

SLINGSHOT 04-15-2003 05:27 PM

better safe then sorry

Becca 04-15-2003 05:59 PM

Definitely! If you start to run out of gas on either tank you can hear it, change the fuel selectors, turn on the fuel pumps for like a minute and never drop plane. If they're doing it like they used to the selectors should be at your right ankle, ask your passenger to switch them (that was me if I wasn't driving) or just bend down and do it yourself. Oh and for all of the above - ballast and a reserve, so convenient. P.S. our fuel guages were never "really" accurate below 1/4 of a tank due to conditions, etc. so we were ready for anything. Good luck!

Nykamp 04-15-2003 07:39 PM

SCALP
 
It's a must have in my book, my 92 had it and so does my 94. It handly in many ways. I tryed you last night but your P.M. box was full, talk Tommy or me will have that new bad boy loaded for bear with options. Steve

ScalpTaker36 04-15-2003 07:53 PM

Hey Steve, PM me yor phone # I had a question I wanted to ask you.

PM box should be working. If not please call me at 516-456-9451

Thanks,

Fred


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