No wake, No Wake and No Anchor
 

Yesterday the recomendations were to extened the no wake zone at the Grand Glaze bridge out to the main channel.

Also recomended were no anchoring in the cove by Porta Cima.

Finally the cove that Backwater Jacks is in will now be a no wake zone also on holidays and weekends.

These have been forwarded for and will likely gain approval.

I would guess that in time all the coves will be no wake, seems that if 75% of the people agree then it's approved and who doesn't want THIER cove to be no wake?

My biggest problem is with restricting anchoring on the lake, it isn't like they are anchored in the channel or anything and also restricting traffic on the main arms. Now the home owners association farther up the arm will be wanting it extended because you have pushed the "problem" to another area.

Oh well that's the LOTO update for those of you comming down, please make those adjustments :(

WE free iraq!

Now we need help here! They are taking away all our rights and freedoms. They just closed a boat ramp around my house with a locked gate after 10 pm. They asked a local he stated boaters shouldn't be out at night it's too dangerous at night. so now i have to find a new ramp Boat ramp hours 6am -10 pm. They have speed laws in Nj what's next?

Sounds like our Manatee idiots have sent some irresponsible $$ithead troops (no pun intended Troutly) up north.:( :hothead: :hothead: :(

Isn't Slug Hefner a member on here? He has a house in the BWJ cove and maybe he can shed some light on all this. The no anchoring at Porto Cima sucks. That was one of the nice spots to sit and watch some golf. What's next, daytime speed restrictions?

Probably:rolleyes:

and besides , didn't you know that the people who own houses there also own the lake and they don't want you anchored in front of their house.
Just ask them:mad:

Mopower, no one owns the lake. That is what is ridiculous. That is why girls can legally go topless on the water.

I stil say if we kill them all they will have to find somebody else to screw with!:cool:

CAP071, What ramp did they close? :mad:

Re: No wake, No Wake and No Anchor
 

That sucks. We love taking the family there to anchor/raft up with friends. Now who will be around to harass all the old people teeing off on the par 3?:mad:

Do part-time homeowners have voting rights down there? We have a house and we have never received anything about polling locations or anything regarding voting. If part-time homeowners are not allowed to vote on these issues, we are fighting a lost cause. I think the only people voting are full-time residents and, for the most part, hate part-timers.

yes you do have the right to voice your opinion, not only as a property owner but as a user of the lake, the problem is that like myself you live in St Louis and when all of the opposition is going on say a tuesday eve at 7:30 pm meeting you and i are in St Louis making money so that we can come down to the lake and spend it. so that great area known as loto can thrive and become a greater place. and in return the full time residents (retire'es) enjoy the lake in the middle of the week they want it to be that way all weekend long, so their family and friends can enjoy what they do. problem is that dont relize that without the weekend crowd loto will die the people pumping millions of dollars into that economy are not the locals but the weekenders, i wander how many millions of dollars are floating on that lake and only get used less than 52 times a year.
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I'm surprised Nort didn't chime in yet!?!

When I was growing up and boating on Silver Bay in Toms River, N.J. there was a large house on the cove owned by a local contractor named Jimmy Johnson. He would drive down to the waters edge with his tractor and chase people off "his beach" and any boats anchored to the beach he'd force them to move. He claimed he owned the beach and the bottom under water for something like 25' out. He even went so far as to hire security guards to patrol "his beach" seven days a week.
Talk about extreme.

BTW Mr. Johnson is long deceased and the land is now a county park. Part of the Cattus Island reserve.

The cove at Porto Cima now is home to about 4 large docks for use by the uppety residents.

Organization is the key, that is what we lack

The writing was on the wall as far as the Porto Cima cove goes. That is bad, the trend is that eventually there will be nothing but trolling motors on the boats at the lake, no stopping and no wakes.

Well, that is far in the future, but, somebody has got to take a practical look at the no anchoring in coves. Every cove is going to have houses so something is going to give.

FYI, From todays LSL
 

Water Patrol panel approves no-wake, no-anchor requests

Agency chief must approve before process is final

By Joyce L. Miller

LAKE OF THE OZARKS - A panel of Missouri Water Patrol captains has recommended three of the busiest areas on Lake of the Ozarks be restricted to idle speed.

That decision was handed down in Jefferson City on Monday following a review of controversial buoy requests from the Lake of the Ozarks. The buoy hearing was moved to Jefferson City from the lake on the orders of Missouri Water Patrol Colonel Jerry Adams.

Their recommendations included buoy permits for Backwater Jack's Cove at the 17-mile marker, the cove at Porta Cima Golf Course at the 16-mile marker, and additional restrictions on the Grand Glaize Arm near the mouth to the Grand Glaize Bridge. The two coves and the Glaize have been identified by the Water Patrol as the busiest and most congested areas on the lake.

The committee is made up of Captains Gary Haupt, Charles Bent, Joe Hughes, William Cox, Dale Sluhand and Jim Marlin. At least three of the captains have worked on Lake of the Ozarks.

According to testimony of residents and business owners in favor of the buoys, at any given time there may be several hundred boats congregated in the coves and twice as many coming and going to and from Party Cove on the Grand Glaize Arm.

The final decision on the buoy permits lies with Adams. The general consensus of the committee members was that because of the amount of traffic during the boating season, the requests were justified.

Lets see in the past 6 months I have seen

Speed laws introduced
More No wake zones
No anchor zones
Higher Insurance
Boat ramps with restricted hours for day time boating only


In a few more years we may see insurance company's refusing to write policy's for certin boats, putting them out of buisness. Face it! The boating world is changing and changing FAST! We are losing our rights and privilages almost day by day without any input from us the boating consumer, and most of these laws are put in place by NON boating people.


We need to start organizing a group of lawyers to defend our waters.

I'm a little hesitant to say anything, but we are still "free" in Texas! :cool:

On Lake Travis (near Austin) the county parks are open 24 hours a day (all year long). The ramp by the dam is four lanes wide and has lights at night. Although there is a speed limit at night (and rightly so), there is none during the day.

The "water cops" are only concerned with boater safety. Although they will "come down hard" on unsafe boaters, they allow just about anything else. This included naked women in "party cove" and plenty of "open containers" while you are rafted-up in the cove. :D

As long as you are safe while underway, they will leave you alone.

I am hesitant to say all of this because a Texan is only afraid of one thing... a Yankee with a U-Haul! ;)

I dont quite grasp the assumption that a group of tethered/anchored boats are more dangerous than those same boats moving individually in the channel.

Nousance issue, OK, but whose right to existence is a higher ranking, the people on the lake, or the people next to the lake?

Anyone know of an easy means to contact the people making the decision? email addy? I have been watching the LSL online and the headlines they include on their web site are always about some remote area that is having plumbing problems or some other lame topic.

At least the local rag is on our side:

Lake Sun Editorial

THE UGLY - There is a logical fallacy known as the strawman. One sets up a false premise, then builds an argument based on that falsehood.

Such is 'safety' in the no-waking and no-anchoring of Lake of the Ozarks' coves.

The current Water Patrol colonel has morphed that agency from a professional law-enforcement organization into a development tool for the politically connected.

The colonel has single-handedly dismantled a rational standard for buoy permits. He has quelled dissent by moving hearings away from the lake and greased the wheels for the sake of gathering up votes for his benighted boss, Missouri's worst governor in memory.

Private interests have been allowed to hold sway over public interests and the word 'safety' has been made meaningless.

The colonel has set in motion a process that, if not checked, will so significantly change the Lake of the Ozarks as to make it unrecognizable to those who have lived here and loved it.

He has shown not one shred of leadership, but has managed to take political hackism to a new and ugly level.

"Several hundred boats in Porta Cima Cove"
 

Give me a break and learn how to count!!!!!!:rolleyes:

found a contact, give it a try and voice your concerns

email addy from the water patrol home page

- [email protected]

Oh and the "Chief" we beyond the panels recomendations and made Backwater Jacks cove no wake 7 days a week instead of the recomended holidays and weekends.

Makes me wonder why they had a panel make recomendations?

WTF????
 

So they are going to have No Anchoring in Party Cove? When will this be in affect? How can they do that in the State Park?

Partycove,

where does it say that there is no anchoring in partycove? The only spot where you will not be able to anchor is the back of Porto Cima.

hey Von Bongo do you know who the state rep is for that area, perhaps we need to find out who it is and then start emailing him are feelings, so that he will pay a little closer attention to the laws and the people setting them. i have heard that for every 1 contact that a representative gets they count as 1000 voices
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We're going through the same stuff here on Barnegat Bay, in New Jersey. They already started dropping buoys all over the place. The interesting thing is there is a strip of land with 2 towns named Bay Head & Mantoloking. Mostly blow boaters with lots of cash live there. Well, with their wishes of all these no wake zones, they are now going to be bringing all the boat traffic right into their back yards.
We have an area just north of the Mantoloking Bridge where mostly all boats would travel west of an island named Herring Island. Mainly because majority of it was no wake. It was a longer distance to go around, but you could be on plane to get over to the Point Pleasant Canal. So now with them making it all no wake, and the shortest distance is a straight line (which runs along the people's houses). Which way would you take for now on??? I have mentioned many times to these people that they better becareful what they wish for.... I say by 4th of July, they will be wishing they had not done this... :hothead:

There is a meeting coming up May 7th. Check the link below for information and an arial map of the affected areas.
Good luck with your fight @ LOTO!