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If you are using a wireless router then you may want to consider the new Linksys wireless G router. It is about 5 times faster then the old technology. I am amazed at how much of a improvement it is. I just put one in a customers house. It runs about 150 for the router and another 80 or so for the PCMCIA cards.
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Hey keep you fingers out of my line of work:mad:
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Guys,
Keep in mind that your Cable and DSL modems only offer a 10 mb connection speed...so it is still going to be your bottleneck when getting to the web. The connection speed between wired and wireless computers on this network will be faster than the old technology. Also this new G technology is not standard yet, so you'll need to buy Linksys G network cards for any pcs on this network... |
I did an overview of G for our execs. From a Corporate standpoint we will not be using G untill the standard is ratified.
802.11G What is it? 802.11g is a wireless networking standard that will provide 54 Mbps raw data rate and 802.11b backward compatibility using the 2.4 GHz unlicensed radio band. When will it be available? The 802.11b standard is still in draft form and is expected to be ratified in summer or fall of 2003 by the IEEE engineering group. The Wi-Fi alliance which certifies interoperability between 802.11 products will not begin certification until the 802.11g standard is complete. This leads me to conclude that Wi-Fi certified 802.11g standard products will not be available until late 2003. Are draft products available? Some pre-ratification 802.11g products are shipping at this time but there is no guarantee that these products will interoperate with or work as well as 802.11g standard products. Is it compatible with 802.11b? 802.11g standard products will be compatible with 802.11b products. This means that 802.11b clients will work with 802.11g access points and 802.11g clients will work with 802.11b access points. This compatibility does come with a cost. Due to the slower speeds of 802.11b any 802.11g access point with an attached 802.11b client will operate with a lower throughput speed. Due to the standard not being ratified it is not known at this time what the actual slowdown will be. Is it compatible with 802.11a? 802.11g products will not be compatible with 802.11a products. This is due to the different radio frequencies used. Are our present access points upgradeable? Some of our access points will be upgradeable. Our strategic direction for access points is the Cisco 1200. This access point uses a modular configuration that allows replaceable radio cards. If the radio cards were replaced the access points would be capable of functioning with the 802.11g standard. (Cisco is indicating they will have an 802.11g radio for the 1200 Access point.) Our older Symbol access points will not be upgradeable. They use an onboard radio with a chipset that is not compatible with 802.11g. What are the benefits? Higher connection speeds of up to 54 Mbps and compatibility with our existing 802.11b products. What are the negatives? 802.11g's negatives are the same as 802.11b's, i.e. only three non-overlapping channels and interference from cordless phones and microwave ovens. |
The 10MB connection on your cable/DSL modem has no relavence on the speed of the actual internet connection. It merely states you can talk to the modem at that rate. Given DSL is limited to 7MB at its absolute fastest (RaDSL very limited availablility) with most connections in the 512kb range and cable is about 1 - 2 MB max, changing the wireless router will have no effect on your internet browsing.
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220, 420, 120 Whatever it takes! :D
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I thought the wireless idea sounded pretty neat so with the last couple of laptops I purchased i got an Intel 10/100Mbps Ethernet and 11Mbps 802.11b. Of course, it's not hooked up and has been sitting in a box on my desk for a couple months so by the time I actually hook it up it will probably be outdated (if it isn't already):rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Sean Guys, Keep in mind that your Cable and DSL modems only offer a 10 mb connection speed...so it is still going to be your bottleneck when getting to the web. The connection speed between wired and wireless computers on this network will be faster than the old technology. Also this new G technology is not standard yet, so you'll need to buy Linksys G network cards for any pcs on this network... Jon |
Originally posted by Donzi38ZX The 10MB connection on your cable/DSL modem has no relavence on the speed of the actual internet connection. ... changing the wireless router will have no effect on your internet browsing. Yes, because the bottleneck is the line speed of the broadband connection, what's worse, the real bottleneck is the shared bandwidth of the broadband network's (cable, DSL) connection to the Internet "cloud." No, because a lot can be going on even on a SOHO network, so some extra headroom can be a good thing. If Audiofn experiences a marked speedup, then he has done something right. Some WiFi connections can be incredibly slow in the real world .... I run 4 machines at home, and they are connected with Gigabit Ethernet through a fast switch via good old Cat5. I don't believe in that newfangled stuff.... |
Hey guys,Im using the linksys now as we cruise from St Thomas to Bahamas then to Maimi for SBI race,The linksys works much faster then the mouse on my laptop,and you can run more than one puter on it **** cable!!! tripps :D :D :D :D :D
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Peconic
I'm running the same as you only with Cat6. I have plenty of Cat6 if anyone needs some. And a sh*t load of Cat5e.:) I'm just over 2mbps. It SMOKES dial-up.:D |
Hey Pec,I didn't even see you on that post!!! Shame on me my ol'e superfest buddy!!!y!!! I've just about wore out my SUPERFEST Shirt on this cruise!!!,You know,a little 90 weight,fixin this ol'e tanker,some tranny fluid on the lifeboat cranes!! they want me to come and work on here but i said,THIS AINT A SUPERBOAT !!! I really ripped it up opening up those Corona's with it :D :D :D Hopefully ill be able to post some pics from Maimi
Sea ya tripps Oh yea SUPERFEST JULY 26-27 GREAT SOUTH BAY TO KISMET AND DEMOCRAT point |
There are more shirts where yours came from, Grand Wizard Tripps ...
Re: The Linksys. You might be on to something. First generation SOHO routers were slow as molasses, newer ones are faster. People forget that routers have processors that inspect each packet .... |
HUH ? :D
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Peconic: I hear ya wires are always better for speed (at leaste now) however what is the point of a lap top if you are chained to the wall or desk? Also any time you want to run wires in this guys house be my guest. Wireless was a good alternative due to some very ornate wall treatments, like a room that is ALL mahogony. Place was built in 1885
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What does SOHO mean?
I just installed a Speedstream router and it says it a SOHO?? |
Small Office Home Office .... it's a marketing thing .....
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My only point was pertaining to the Internet connection which is not enhanced even by the full duplex gigabit switched networks I design and run. Any wifi product with an 802.xx spec is faster than your broadband connection. File sharing, printing etc. is a whole other issue.
Originally posted by Peconic Yes and no. Yes, because the bottleneck is the line speed of the broadband connection, what's worse, the real bottleneck is the shared bandwidth of the broadband network's (cable, DSL) connection to the Internet "cloud." No, because a lot can be going on even on a SOHO network, so some extra headroom can be a good thing. If Audiofn experiences a marked speedup, then he has done something right. Some WiFi connections can be incredibly slow in the real world .... I run 4 machines at home, and they are connected with Gigabit Ethernet through a fast switch via good old Cat5. I don't believe in that newfangled stuff.... |
My Linksys is awesome. Might be a bit older but the only problem I have is now that I moved into a bigger house. The tow places I would work are out of range!
Is there a repeater or are the new ones more powerful? |
A 802.11b or g will have a range indoors of about 100 - 150 feet. If you have 802.11a, that standard does not penetrate walls very well.
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802.11 is great because it frees you up to roam. The only reason I still use cable in my house is because they have not secured the signal yet. Meaning, somebody with a sniffer can possibly capture your data. I log in to work from home and this can be a risk. If it was just my home stuff, I wouldn't care.
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Originally posted by Bam Bam 802.11 is great because it frees you up to roam. The only reason I still use cable in my house is because they have not secured the signal yet. Meaning, somebody with a sniffer can possibly capture your data. I log in to work from home and this can be a risk. If it was just my home stuff, I wouldn't care. |
I tried plugging my router into the 220 line from my drier and it's not any faster but it does smoke alot now.Otto
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Hence the expression: "This machine is smokin!"
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Originally posted by kcgbjc My Linksys is awesome. Might be a bit older but the only problem I have is now that I moved into a bigger house. The tow places I would work are out of range! Is there a repeater or are the new ones more powerful? Jon |
Originally posted by Donzi38ZX All 802.11 traffic can be secured with 128bit WEP encryption. I only know of one non-military wireless encryption that has not been broken. That is Cisco's proprietary LEAP. Even though it hasn't been broken yet, It's only a matter if time. |
Isn't there a law as to how far the encryption can go.Otto
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Originally posted by 36spectre Isn't there a law as to how far the encryption can go.Otto |
Even with WEPs flaws it takes 5 to 15 million packets to break the key which is about 2 weeks of traffic on a lan with 4 active users. that is some dedication to snoop a home network. Any info passed to a company should be through a virtual private network which is much more difficult to break and in fact is relied upon by millions of companies. If they want the info there are far easier ways to retrieve it.
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Timely post Audio. We just got hi-speed to the house, and are planning to wifi network three computers. One in the basement where the modem is, and two above within 20 feet of the modem. One laptop, and two desk tops.
I'm not very computer literate, and don't really want to be. Therefore, using K.I.S.S., exactly what equipment does the board recomend, for my level of computer geekness, to wifi our computers? thanks. PS we're using windows 98 now, but considering upgrading to 2000 or xp in the near future. |
Using the padlock comparison: Will you leave the door unlocked, just because someone can bust a padlock with a bolt cutter?
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Originally posted by Donzi38ZX All 802.11 traffic can be secured with 128bit WEP encryption. |
Originally posted by Donzi38ZX Even with WEPs flaws it takes 5 to 15 million packets to break the key which is about 2 weeks of traffic on a lan with 4 active users. that is some dedication to snoop a home network. Any info passed to a company should be through a virtual private network which is much more difficult to break and in fact is relied upon by millions of companies. If they want the info there are far easier ways to retrieve it. The dictionary attack will generate 45,000 guesses/second against 128-bit generated keys on a PIII 500. |
Originally posted by Peconic Using the padlock comparison: Will you leave the door unlocked, just because someone can bust a padlock with a bolt cutter? For any home network I would recommend these 3 things. Non Broadcast SSID WEP Mac Filtering These 3 things will keep most intruders out. I would also recommend that any computers on the network run a firewall. |
http://www.80211-planet.com/tutorial...le.php/2106281
Originally posted by Kohldog Donzi38zx, This is not true. Google "wep +dictionary +attack" and see what you find. This attack can be done in as little as a 1.5 hours and with only 1 encrypted packet. The dictionary attack will generate 45,000 guesses/second against 128-bit generated keys on a PIII 500. |
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