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SHARKEY-IMAGES 04-30-2003 08:38 AM

Crackdown On Loud Boats in N J!!!
 
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There could be renewed enforcement of boat noise limits this summer, with State Police now in the early stages of thinking about how they might test overly loud engine exhausts and issue summonses against operators of such vessels.
Full article click here: CRACKDOWN SOUGHT

SLINGSHOT 04-30-2003 08:54 AM

GUESS i M GETTING A TICKET

mmwalters 04-30-2003 09:11 AM

i guess there is more then one way to skin a cat.:drool:

CAP071 04-30-2003 09:31 AM

We are slowly losing our rights to Boating, smoking, drinkin, gun ownership, speech, higher taxes , the list goes on and on.


Tell the guy to move if he doesn't like boat noise! He knew all this when he moved into the house. It sounds like the people who live by the airport in Philly complaining about planes making too much noise during take off and landing! DUH!:confused:


You wait and see what we as Americans lose because we don't get our ass out and VOTE! The NJ Power Boat club should at election time back someone and do everything possible for the person to win the election. That means on election night get your club members out in their own cars n trucks picking up people at their houses if you have to and get them to VOTE!!!!!!!!


Now in Philly they lock up the boat ramp at 10 PM because some NON -boating government guy decided that was the easiest way to curb the party's that go on by the water front at night. But I already contacted the office of a guy that will be running against him in the next election. I'm hanging signs up and knocking on doors for him. atleast I did my part to beat the BullSh*t

BODYSHOT1 04-30-2003 09:41 AM

Hey Shark...guess I shoulda stayed with the O/B's!!

:rolleyes: ;)

VinMan 04-30-2003 10:09 AM


Originally posted by BODYSHOT1
Hey Shark...guess I shoulda stayed with the O/B's!!

:rolleyes: ;)

Yes , your motor was exceptionally quiet.:D

( I know i'm gonna pay for this the first time one of our motors lets go!):rolleyes:

outer42 04-30-2003 10:23 AM

hey vin you putting the motors in or what call me 609 395-0869 ex12 scott we should do why marty can't be around.

outer42 04-30-2003 10:24 AM

so they won't be a crowd for autographs

BODYSHOT1 04-30-2003 10:31 AM

Vin's trying to call you now, Fokker!....I want you guys to do'em this weekend....

Brad Zastrow 04-30-2003 10:32 AM

As a homeowner on the water and a performance boater I think we need to be considerate of other people. I personally like the sound of a open exhaust, however a lot of folks do not. I have gone to great effort and expense to keep my noisy ponies (2000) quiet. Being loud does not make you fast, it just sounds like it to the driver. I laugh out loud when I see some of the cruiser (cuddy style) boats running 35 mph with open exhaust. What are they thinking? We are going to have to try to keep the noise to a reasonable level that will not continue to draw attention to our boats. If we fight this we will lose more rights such as speed limits, etc.

rainmn 04-30-2003 11:52 AM

Troutly, Brad - right on the money. My family has a waterfront home here in NJ as well. While I love the sound of open exhausts, not all of my neighbors do. None of them are "Noise Nazis," they would just appreciate a little common courtesy.
For example, if you have Silent Choice, friggin' use it coming in and out of lagoons. You're not impressing anyone by leaving it open.
Another one - who are all the future Darwin candidates running WFO across the bay late at night? I like to go out at night too, but wide open?
The attitude that some performance boaters have almost justifies the attitude that the rest of the boating world has towards us. Telling someone to deal with your noise because they live on the water isn't going to help. I'm sure all of your houses are on some sort of road, right? Does that mean your neighbor has the right to blast up and down the street at 2am every night on an straight piped Harley?

McGary911 04-30-2003 12:45 PM

I saw this in the paper this am also. This is after yesterday, where I saw that they placed the new no wake buoys from the Pt Pleasant canal to the beginning of Beaver Dam creek, and also in front of the Metedeconk river yacht club. My uncle must be a bit peeved, as his family owns a marina at the beginning of the creek, guess his tennants will take another 20 minutes to get to the canal now.
This noise crackdown (we'll have to wait to see how bad it gets) seems like it just may be a way to appease the homeowners\sailboaters on the metedeconk, without dropping no wake buoys all over the river. When i was in high school, during the summer we'd be on the river water skiing at 6:00am before our summer jobs. It's sad that those days may be long gone.

Sorry for the long post, but i grew up and live in the area, and this really burns me up. AND...after saving for 3 years, I just bought a Donzi with a 502, so i'd like to ride the damn thing on the metedeconk river and barnegat bay!! I've wanted this boat for 18 years or so!!!!!!........ok, back to work now.....

baja27 04-30-2003 01:05 PM

Just sell your boat and by a sail boat or canoe.:D But then someone will complain that your mast is to high:p

gdfatha 04-30-2003 02:55 PM

Anyone ever see Troutly's mast at full sail??:D :D :eek:

Peconic 04-30-2003 06:02 PM


Originally posted by rainmn
While I love the sound of open exhausts, not all of my neighbors do. ... if you have Silent Choice, friggin' use it coming in and out of lagoons. You're not impressing anyone by leaving it open.
Exactly. Noise is a very powerful issue. It has relocated airports, prohibited Air Forces from doing low level flights, even stopped churches from ringing their bells. If the military and churches have lost the fight, don't even think of picking one.

Our sport has enough enemies. If you hate speed limits, cut the noise.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 05-01-2003 05:20 AM


Originally posted by rainmn
I'm sure all of your houses are on some sort of road, right? Does that mean your neighbor has the right to blast up and down the street at 2am every night on an straight piped Harley?
So does that mean they will go after the motorcyles next???
As far as I know most towns have noise ordinances. Brick's starts at 10:00PM til 7:30AM.
As I brought up at the January meeting, if they are able to do this, does this give me the right to go tell the planes that fly out of Lakewood Airport to find another flight path other than the one over my neighborhood? I would not do such a thing. That is rediculus. I knew there was an airport a few miles away when I purchased my house and was willing to deal with it.
On land, you have a place to go run your open exhaust vehicles. Water is the only place you can use your boat. Who is anyone to say you can't operate you boat out of the Noise Ordinance time limits. Although this is already a LAW, we do have to deal with it. It will be enforced this year!!! So as an early warning to anyone this effects, watch your back. Also remember not to take it out on our State Marine Police, they are only being asked to do their jobs. Be polite, and they may let you off with a warning first.;)

formula31 05-01-2003 07:31 AM

Yea, I too am peeved at the noise laws and if they insist on having them, they should be enforced equally on land, sea and the air. In other words, get rid of them. We have a local ordinance trying to control car stereos. They can play them as loud as they want till 10 PM. So, why cant I run my boat as loud as I want till 10 PM? Or, why arent all the Harleys being checked for sound levels? Better yet, I wonder how the police sirens would fare on the db meter? Chain saws, lawnmowers, come on, do it equally or dont do it at all. Its not even close to being fair that just boats are picked on. I have silent choice and I use it. Thats even illegal in Ohio.

mopower 05-01-2003 07:55 AM

That's what I love about our demacracy any more , three people bitc* and everybody has to pay the price:mad:

pbj 5 05-01-2003 08:00 AM

Big Brother.....

Hauling Trash 05-01-2003 08:06 AM

Tim

Noise Ordinances in Brick is 24 hrs 7 days ,NOW



MIke

Ron P 05-01-2003 11:01 AM

Tim,

Good point. This is not something the Marine Police want to do. The are being forced to do it. The guys in blue have proven that the are a friend of the performance boaters and racers in our area and should be treated with respect at all times.

PLEASE don't give them a hard time for doing their job.

formula31 05-01-2003 12:09 PM

thats what your gun is for, LOL, damn noisy kids anyway.

mr_velocity 05-01-2003 02:05 PM


Originally posted by sharkeymarine
Water is the only place you can use your boat.
Like someone said, we (they) did it to ourselves. I don't boat much in your area of NJ, why? Because it's a zoo with a lot of uncaged a$$holes running around. And frankly I find if rather unsettling to be in the same area of these people. It's a bunch of the fast guys want to be fast and obnoxious only in the congested areas where there are a lot of people to see them. Your area definitely has more than it's share of showoffs. There are plenty of places to run the boats, they are offshore boats so get out of the river and bay and run offshore.
I support all the efforts of the high performance people in your area only because I don't want to see the regulations spread to our neck of the woods.

mopower 05-01-2003 02:06 PM

On the other side of the coin is the fact that you can go faster quietly . How , you say:confused: Simple , you don't attract as much attention to yourself.
Right Troutly? I'll bet your ears perk up like a cat when it heres a bird any time you hear something winding up going down the road:cool:
This may be a little far fetched , but you could go by someones dock @ 80 mph quietly and they wouldn't even look up from the TV. Of course by the time they did look up you'd be gone. Whereas you idle by with t / 900sc's and open exhaust and people will be outside shaking their fists at you:p

Just a thought:cool:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 05-01-2003 05:06 PM


Originally posted by mopower
On the other side of the coil is the fact that you can go faster quietly .
True, but not everyone wants a Turbine...:D
We have a Turbine here and at some meetings it was his boat they were saying was making all the noise and was racing down the bay at 200 mph. I had to laugh...:D These people just don't know what they are watching. That boat can sneak up on you at 150-200 mph and you would never even know it. All you see is alot of water flying...:D :D :D and hear nothing.... :rolleyes:

mopower 05-01-2003 05:43 PM

I watched a turbine cat on The Chesapeake last year near Turkey Point light house. I saw his roostertail before I could see the boat:eek: . If this guy wasn't doing 100 mph , he wasn't doing nuthin:p . Couldn't hear a rumble of BB's , couldn't hear the whine of OB's. He was going through rather heavy traffic rather scarily(such a word?), anyway , if you were on the beach with your back to the water you'da never noticed:cool:
Wasn't till about a week later I heard of a turbine cat in the area and then figured out why I couldn't hear it:D :D .

SHARKEY-IMAGES 06-04-2003 10:20 AM

Environmentalists Rallying Their Groups!
 
This was found on the front page of their website:

PROTEST CIGARETTE BOAT NOISE

NJ BOAT REGULATION COMMISSION MEETING

Wed., July 9, @ 10 AM
at the BAY HEAD YACHT CLUB
This is your chance to impress the New Jersey Boat Regulation Commission with the inadequate job they are doing of controlling noisy and dangerous powerboats.


This is a public meeting.
BRING ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS!


Because you own something other than a Cig. don't assume you are exempt...:D These people are coming after anyone with a performance boat.
Because they singled out Cigarette, could that be defamation???
Cigarette has been notified and aware....;)

WE WILL NEED AS MANY POWERBOATERS, ENGINE BUILDERS AND BOAT MANUFACTURERS AS POSSIBLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.
If you cannot make the meeting and have some helpful information and data to fight off these people, please forward it to:
John H. Shanahan, Jr.
Member, NJ Boat Regulation Commission
c/o Boating Safety Institute of America
Post Office Box 46
Maywood, NJ 07607-0046

Telephone: 800-237-1708
On the Web: BoatSafety.org

SHARKEY-IMAGES 07-07-2003 04:56 AM

Meeting Location Changed for July 9th
 
To All Interested Parties:

This note will advise that the location has changed for the July meeting of the NJ Boat Regulation Commission scheduled for Wednesday, July 9, 2003 at 10:00 am.

The meeting will take place in Sea Girt at the NJ Militia Museum meeting room, located on the grounds of the NJ State Police Training Academy.

I have not seen an agenda for the meeting, but understand that there will be presentations to the Commission on powerboat noise control and on the placement of "slow/no wake" buoys in certain areas of Barnegat Bay. The Commission will continue its review of NJSA 12:7, the State's Marine Laws, and review comments received on proposed amendments to NJAC 13:61 et.seq., the administrative regulations governing boating in New Jersey.

Please give this notice of change in location the widest possible distribution.

Thank you.

John H. Shanahan, Jr.
Member, Boat Regulation Commission
State of New Jersey
Phone: 800-237-1708

For more information visit: www.SharkeyMarine.com


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