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Did Apache ever build a 41' Stepped bottom boat??? Wardey

no

Thanks, That's what I thought. There are some 41 molds for sale and they are calling them 41 Apache molds....They have 3 steps in them. As far as I know Apache didn't put steps in until their last design a year or so ago. Dave

THEY DONT MAKE 41'S ANYMORE

wardey, i think the company new tech that built a stepped 41

one that i know of was done after it came from the mold.bobby moore conversion.

I think Bob Saccenti was a partner in Newtech.

The partnership didn't last long.

Maybe he'll respond to this thread.

vtec

Thanks for the info !!! Wardey

I thought the New Techs were 42 or 43 foot boats ?

There is one stepped :D

One more .....

The guts of the question was, did "Apache" build a stepped 41. Not Nu Tech, Commance, Cherokee, etc. That answer is no. The new 41 will have a stepped option from what they have said so far.

The boat you guys are talking about was a splashed 41 from the old Apache Racing Team boat (red, white, and blue graphics) that was made into a mold. They called it a Cigar and the first one did a very graceful barrel roll down from Ft Apache when first tested.

And yes you can still get a 41

LOL :D :D

Hmmm, I knew there was a reason for the price. Thanks, WArdey

STINSON,

I'll be in your neck of the woods from the 26th - 6th. I just bought a place and I'll be there setting things up. Give me a call on my cell and maybe we could hook up. Mike F.

Ok Mike I'll give you a holler tomorrow sometime I would love to hook up with you down here bro.....

Sean

Wardey,
Yes they're right. Steve Schmidt of Competitive Edge Marine has the canopy version of the Cigar boat for sale. It had big HP and did run pretty good (120 ish), it's just the #6's were WAY to high and they had no steering. I'm not sure if the one he has, was the one that rolled.

Thanks Ben......Dave

The next question will be "who is apache?".

Does Mark Mcmanus still build boats with the Apache name? I think he owns the Apache Powerboats Trademark, and I assume Steve, and Bobby S. are licensing it.

Remember Mcmanus worked on the originals, just like Bobby Saccenti. If he builds one in the same mold,with the same style rigging, who cares what you call it.

vtec

McManus is Comanche and Mark McManus Superboats from what I understand these days. Bobby is Apache and I wont reopen the can of worms from there. But there is no licensing agreement between McManus and Bobby. Bobby is Apache.

How does this whole Apache story go?

From the begining please...

Now this is going to be a long thread.......Sorry guy's:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: Dave

Well if you wanna know start with the Apache (What's in a name) part 1 thread then part 2 then part 3......that pretty much will sum it up with some drama, good history, and other juicy things......be ready to sit through about 80 pages of info though

Here are the Cliff notes:
God created Man,
Man wanted to go in water,
Man create Boat,
Boat need to go Faster,
And faster, and Faster,
God create guy named Don
God create guy named Bobby,
God create Guy named Ben,
Don, Ben, and Bobby make boats go Faster
Ben play God
No more Don
Government is God,
No more Ben,
Bobby makes Boats go Faster, calls them Apache
Ben makes licence plates, that say Apache
Skip makes bad T-shirts that Fade
The End!

NOW THATS FUNNY :D :D :D

LMAO :D :D

Well aren't you the little poet these days......Very Good Shakespeare

Good one!:D

It is not the end, just a couple of chapters.

Bob, check your PM!

Matt

:D

New Tech was a Company that a guy from the Bahamas was the money man for with Bobby. There was an insert placed in the mold that was designed by a European Engineer. I know for a fact that there were three 36's with the step as I personally sold all three of them several years ago. One went to the Bahamas, one was sold to the Feds as a drug chaser boat, and the third went the Great Lakes Area.

At the time I remember that there was a triple 41 with diesels but am not sure if it was stepped or not.

When New-Tech dissolved the insert was not allowed to be used anymore by Apache (or whatever you want to call it)

Somewhere in my files I have a write up on what I believe I remember to be a fourth or fifth 36 that had Bobby Driving it.

The Bahamanian one won the Bahamian race in 2002. It was a 36 with 500 hp's and ran 82mph. Since then the boat has been re-powered by TNT with Chief Engines and is running close to 100.

The 42 with triple Diesels was twin stepped.

:fish:

:D :D

:D :o

Stand up for your beliefs Ron!!! A little history lesson might help here. Buckk:fish: