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That was a good idea- for those who wants to read everything between the two of them- Maybe OSO would want to do that- create a section for Politics...

Well over there they dedicated an entire forum to the issue. Maybe some of the complaints about the location of these posts are shared by others on other boards too.

one other, just to show you how much I follow the issue.

what does LLC stand for?

I believe it stands for Limited Liability Company
LLC on this board is just short for APBA Offshore LLC

Well, at least I learned what the future of the LLC will be.:D

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/Videos/pool_racing.wmv

I like that special forum idea! I propose that OSO steals that idea immediately. Actually, it's not called stealing anymore, it's "adhering to best practice."

Good stuff. :D

Poor ole Eddy. :rolleyes:

I just wish someone that really understands all this warfare involving the APBA could sum it all up for those of us totally amazed at what has gone on for the past couple of years. Following are questions I would love to have answers to.
1) What is the real reason Reggie decided to move to SBI?
2) How is the APBA structured? I ask because I thought, mistakenly of course, that this was an offshore racing organization. I never even heard of this dispute involving "kneeldown" racers! I never even heard that term until I read this thread. Although every time I want a performance part for the boat I must kneel down before my wife and beg!:p
3) Who is this Ed person and his father and their friends? Never heard of them before.
4) Is it just me or does it seem like Mike Alweise has a tough time getting along with folks. Who put him in charge? Where did he come from? Boat racing background?
Thanks in advance to anyone who really understands all this and is willing to share.
Curt.

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Originally posted by Curt
I just wish someone that really understands all this warfare involving the APBA could sum it all up for those of us totally amazed at what has gone on for the past couple of years. Following are questions I would love to have answers to.
1) What is the real reason Reggie decided to move to SBI?

Don't know the history here

2) How is the APBA structured? I ask because I thought, mistakenly of course, that this was an offshore racing organization. I never even heard of this dispute involving "kneeldown" racers! I never even heard that term until I read this thread. Although every time I want a performance part for the boat I must kneel down before my wife and beg!:p

APBA is based in Detriot MI. and is the sanctioning body for all types of powerboat raceing in the USA, Offshore LLC based in St. Pete Fl leases the APBA name and runs the Offshore category only.

3) Who is this Ed person and his father and their friends? Never heard of them before.

Ed Hearn is APBA Stock Outboard Chairman his father is the President of APBA(a point which is in dispute right know), the freind are the acting Board of directors of APBA(another point which is in dispute). There is also a dispute wether Offshore LLC owes APBA money or if APBA owes the LLC money.

4) Is it just me or does it seem like Mike Alweise has a tough time getting along with folks. Who put him in charge? Where did he come from? Boat racing background?

Mike A is the chairman of the Offshore category and one of the owner's of APBA Offshore LLC, I believe the CEO. As far as is racing background I don't know the history. As far as his not getting along with folks yes he rubs some people the wrong way, but he has many loyal followers also. He is very passionate about the sport of boat racing and believes in what he is doing and does whatever it takes to get things done. Whether that a good thing or not, it depends on who you talk to. What he does do is produce exciting Offshore races that the racers support.

Thanks in advance to anyone who really understands all this and is willing to share.
Curt.

I think this about sums it up.

Grin

Hey Grin, thanks a million. That does help. I wonder why the APBA felt it needed to lease it's name and allow an outsider to run a major segment of it's operation? Also if the APBA is so unhappy with Offshore LLC. why do they not simply terminate the lease and pull everything back in house. That happens in business everyday. I don't know maybe it's just me but I get tired of all the bickering that seems to go on in the sport. I want Reggie back in the fold as well. Anyone that knows why he moved on to SBI please chime in here.
Thanks!

My understanding is, he didn't like the rules that tried to make the boats as equal as possible.

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My understanding is, he didn't like the rules that tried to make the boats as equal as possible.

That could be. I have heard stories about some boats being loaded with 500 lbs. of weight to slow them down etc. This seems unfair to me. I really don't want the APBA to be run like NASCAR. I think that if a manufacturer invests the time and money to build a faster boat then by God they should win every race until another manufacturer invests the money to catch them. For example I liked NASCAR back when they ran real cars, not the clones they run today. Practicaly nothing would beat the Plymouth Superbird and Dodge Daytona back in 69 and 70. Then NASCAR decided they were too fast and outlawed them. The APBA should let the fastest factory boats win the races. Why interfere? Im no expert but I'm from the old school philosophy of win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Then again you could package everything I know about boat racing up in an asprin bottle and still have room for a boat anchor!!:p

Curt:

In the past you could build a boat just about anyway you wanted. Boats were built light and the rich guy's pretty much dominated the sport (Copeland , Norris , Johnson - etc) Now there are mininum weight standards to create an equal playing field and for safety issues. Technology is on the edge also. Can you imagine a 525 hp fuel injected F1 Boat that weighed 3800 lbs? I could go on and on - basically it's pretty darn good these days in APBA Offshore - BH

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Originally posted by Curt
Hey Grin, thanks a million. That does help. I wonder why the APBA felt it needed to lease it's name and allow an outsider to run a major segment of it's operation? Also if the APBA is so unhappy with Offshore LLC. why do they not simply terminate the lease and pull everything back in house. That happens in business everyday. I don't know maybe it's just me but I get tired of all the bickering that seems to go on in the sport. I want Reggie back in the fold as well. Anyone that knows why he moved on to SBI please chime in here.
Thanks!

Sometime before LLC you couldn't even make plans or reservations to go to an offshore race.I know of times you had to call the day before a race to see if it's still on.I've had my tickets to Key West for at least a month now.When they(LLC) say it going to happen it will .