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mcollinstn 07-16-2003 09:35 PM

A GN at 16?
I was trying to figure out how to get one at 26!
Drove one at the Buick dealership, but decided that a Honda Accord hatchback made more sense. Ordered a Honda.

Before it came in, sanity shook me out of it and I bought a used Anniversary '82 Vette (crossfire) instead.

My car/boat/rv/harley collector friend had a GNX turbo. He still has a '70 GSX Stage1 car and a '72 GS 4 speed ragtop (both for sale).

BLee 07-17-2003 08:38 AM


Originally posted by Sydwayz
Cig 28/38...
How lucky were you to have a GN at 16? I would have wiped myself out at that age with that car.


Very lucky. Here's the way it "fell" into my lap. My grandmother used to drive an hour to work at night at the post office. My dad and family didn't want her driving some big old car home late. So, he bought a brand new Grand National for her! Anyway, I begged for it when I turned 16, grandma wasn't workin at the P.O. anymore, so I got it. It wasn't a GNX but it was still super sweet.

HyperBaja 07-17-2003 12:24 PM

Insurance
I now pay 850/6mos on liability only on 1993 Thunderbird LX

895 will get me full coverage
Now when school starts back up...i need B;s....will be 650.

Red Stripe 07-17-2003 09:32 PM

I know its out of your price range Hyper and its not old but just in case someone is looking for one. We have a few more of these sitting down at work ready to go :D

http://bergerchevy.com/berger2/images/hrcar_450.jpg

Red Stripe 07-17-2003 09:36 PM

380hp/400tq Package
Mobil 1 Oil Cap and Decal
Cat Back Chambered Exhaust
All New High Flow Air Box Lid
Progressive Rate Eibach Lowering Springs
17x9.5 Chrome Cragar SS Wheels
Dimpled Front & Rear Rotors
Special 69' Style Hockey Stick Stripe
Black Rear Tail Light Panel
Hot Rod Airbox Lid Decal
Chrome "By Berger" Rear Emblem
Painted Body Color Top Hoop
Special 2 tone Leather Interior
Hot Rod Console Plaque and Key Fob
Fitted Car Cover with Hot Rod Logo
Horsepower and Torque Dash Plaque
Hot Rod Magazine Camaro Emblems
Premium Floor Mats with Hot Rod Logo
All New Grille with Red Bowtie Emblem
White Face Gauges with Hot Rod Logo
Rearview Mirror w/Compass/Temp/Auto Dimmer
Power Antenna
Red Powder Coated Brake Calipers
Short Stick Shifter
Black Hurst Shift Ball
Car Number on Windshield and Rearview Mirror

Red Stripe 07-17-2003 09:47 PM

http://bergerchevy.com/berger4/Camaro/2cm1622.JPG
http://bergerchevy.com/berger4/Camaro/2cm1621.JPG


:D :D :D

HyperBaja 07-18-2003 12:47 PM

Nice....My insurance on a Z28 2000 is 4500/6 mos.

Doug 07-19-2003 11:45 AM

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I bought my 69/Z in sept. 73 the beginning of my senior year of high school. Still drive it to about 4 or 5 local shows a year. Restored it about 12 years ago. All original, it has a 302 motor in it but the original DZ motor is in the corner of the garage, fold down back seat, black hounds tooth interior, factory 8 track, rosewood wheel. stainless steel chambered exhaust.

My wife ordered the 97 SS 30th Anniversary #67 what an awesome car but she finally got tired of it and we sold it this spring. I put the wings west ground effects on it to make it a little differant.

My daughter drives a 95 camaro that I fixed up with the SS package an some nice wheels and stripes. I tried to dig out some pictures but can't find them.

HyperBaja 07-19-2003 05:36 PM

What do you think of 84's???

Talked to a guy who has one for sale (er phone tag) it is the one in the pic in my first post....2500$ 70k actual miles.

velocity260 07-19-2003 06:18 PM

I have a 92 TA convertible not that fast because its only a 305 but it looks good with the top down. My buddy has a 89formula with a stroked 350tpi very fast

boosted6 11-30-2003 04:05 PM

first of all, i know i'm a little late but i had to do this to set you guys strait. i basically just joined this forum to correct a couple things that have been said. The GNX you speak of, they are ALL turbo and intercooled. The regular Grand National for 86-87 was also turbo AND intercooled. the GNX wasn't the only one with an intercooler. The GNX was made faster by improving the intercooler and turbo parts as well as some other mods done throughout the car. like i said, intercooling was only in 86 and 87 models. before that they were what we (buick guys) call hot-air cars since they were not intercooled hence the "hot-air", so the 86 and 87's were/are the most desired. i happen to own an 87 GN (not GNX~i WISH). anyways, if you have any more questions feel free to e-mail me at [email protected] or go to gnttype.org or turbobuicks.com or turbobuick.com (note the "S" on one of those). i don't know if i'll really be coming back here because i don't have a boat, but i would like one maybe with a uhhhhhhhhh grand national engine in it??? hehe. but cars are my passion and i don't really have time to come here all the time. BTW, i'm boosted6 on turbobuicks.com and 87boosted6 on turbobuicks.com
thank you and have a great day.

skwotastropy81 11-30-2003 04:40 PM

has a former owner of a 94 firebird formula firehawk, i recommend staying away from the 3rd gen cars, by the time you find one in good shape its gonna cost you what a lt1 4th gen will, dont listen to the people that will scare you away from the lt1, i had 115k on mine and the only problem that i didnt cause from beating the **** outta the car was the waterpump started to leak, im pretty sure im one of the youngest on this board and i dont consider early 80s cars old, im still in love with the muscle car era.

JnT 11-30-2003 05:34 PM

Had a 77 T/A Bandit car.Loved it.Go for it man.

GO4BROKE 11-30-2003 05:52 PM

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If you want to keep it cheap Hyper, buy a 2nd gen car. There's a lot of deals to be had and insurance should be cheap as most weren't all that fast. BUT a little tweaking will wake them up. Spend 2K on the car, put $500 into it and spend the rest on boat parts.

HyperBaja 11-30-2003 06:13 PM

I love the look of the second gens :D

I raced one with the 403 in it. I had moms 2000 V6 firebird. At 80mph we were dead even. Both are automatics. I launched a little harder than he did. Is that normal for those cars? 320+ ft/lb, I would think it would spank a V6.

GO4BROKE 11-30-2003 06:17 PM

The 403 is the Olds motor used for High Altitude applications, not quite as quick as the 400 (pontiac). Like I said it takes a little tweaking. The power is there, you just need to "uncork" it.

Formula Outlaw 11-30-2003 07:18 PM

A 68 Firebird 400 with the Ram Air IV motor would be nice, as would be:

69' 396-375 horse camaro
68 or 69 Z-28

TxHawk 11-30-2003 07:28 PM

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Not in price range by far, but as long as we are posting pics of camaro's why not post the real deal.

CBR 11-30-2003 08:58 PM

Our family grocery getter is a 96 WS6 Formula Firebird. (one of 55 red automatics made that year). Nearly 100,000 miles on it, and people still ask if it is a new Ferrari. Heck, we intend to keep it for 300,00 miles.
Love this car!

Oh yeah, no problem with the t-tops except in car washes. Have a towel at the ready, and it is fine.

26scarab 11-30-2003 09:51 PM

You guys are killing me with all this car talk ! I got out of cars to get a boat , sure I love the boat but cruising around town in a bad ass ride is something I really miss.

69 Camaros are my favorite, a friend of mine just restored one and I would give up the boat in a heartbeat for it.
He started with a REALLY clean shell and made a Z-28 clone. One of our friends owns a restoration shop and is probably one of the best painters I've met. The car is unbelievably straight. It was apprasied at 35k.
It's Gold (factory color) with black stripes and a black vynl top. Chin spoiler, no decklid spoiler and a urethane front bumper.
Steel rims with caps, He found some place in Cali that makes a narrowed front . So its got skinny's in the front and a 10.5 28 Slick in the back. It's got a LS7 with a set of old D ports and a pretty big solid. Since him and his brother race Super Stock they had a tricked out trans sitting around he thru that in.
At the track last month the car went 10.38 @130 thru mufflers. It snatched the tires about 6" leaving on the transbrake. With a swap to a 4.56 gear I'm sure a 9.99 pass isn't out of the question.
He was kindly asked to put the car back on the trailer and not to come back unless the car had a bar and some a shoulder harness.:D

Formula Outlaw 11-30-2003 09:59 PM

If you could find one, how about a Baldwin Phase III 427 Camaro? Or maybe a Nicky 427 Camaro? Those Phase III Baldwins were producing around 625 horsepower at the rear wheels.

sauron 11-30-2003 10:03 PM

Red Stripe How much on the Berger's and your phone number


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