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baja27 08-05-2003 08:59 AM

40 Baja or 38Scarab
 
The 40 Outlaw is a 2000 with 500's twin. Has a race lay up cabin simpson netting inside. Bravo drives. 120 hours very nice shape, also has a bini top.

The 38 Scarab is a 99 with 502Mpi motors with 150hours.Has a trailer. Cabin has all the goodies. Bravo drives very nice shape. Also has a Gps.

Both boats have Hyd steering, nice guage package.

The Outlaw is about 10k more. It also has a much larger cockpit. Both boats do the same speed.

Which one do you feel is the better deal. Resale in the future.:cool:

TEAMBAJA 08-05-2003 09:26 AM

I think soon you will be changing your screen name from baja27 to baja40. That has a nice ring to it!:D

JUSTONCE 08-05-2003 09:44 AM

I like scarabs and that sounds like a nice one for less money. my.02

CigDaze 08-05-2003 10:10 AM

Go with the Outlaw. The race layup is a nice package and the 40 is a huge boat in every way.

Another consideration: How does wellcraft handle service since they dropped the line?

JUSTONCE 08-05-2003 10:57 AM


Originally posted by Baja Daze
Go with the Outlaw. The race layup is a nice package and the 40 is a huge boat in every way.

Another consideration: How does wellcraft handle service since they dropped the line?

Daze has a real good point that I didn't think of though the service may be enough to sway my vote.
Good call.

baja27 08-05-2003 11:30 AM

Baja Daze I was thinking the same thing. I like the lines of the Baja but at the same time I like the amentites of the Scarab!!! The engine bay is nicer in the 40, ton of room.

29Fever 08-05-2003 11:36 AM


Originally posted by baja27
The engine bay is nicer in the 40, ton of room.
Good point. Since the 40 is set up for trips, I bet it is huge with only twins in it.

GETTINBYE 08-05-2003 11:59 AM

baja27,

Had the oportunity to ride in a 40 Outlaw & 38 Scarab at the Miami Boat show 2 or 3 years ago. Same day only about 2 hours apart. Boat boats had 575sc as I remember. I am sure on the 40 Outlaw. Water was ROUGH in Gorverment Cut.

Bottom line is the 40 Outlaw road better (imo) and was also faster. Best of both worlds. I will give some credit for the ride to the driver of the Outlaw. He has many many hours of seat time in all conditions.

By the way I am the very happy owner of a 1999 36 Outlaw that we ordered new.

Mark

Dock Holiday 08-05-2003 12:10 PM

They both are great boats, don't think you can go wrong with either.

I have run in two different poker runs along side a buddy in his 38 Scarab, and I have to tell you that to be it is one of the best looking boats in the water.

The 40 Outlaw is HUGE!

It would really be a tough choice.

If you like the cuddy setup in the Outlaw I would go with the newer boat, and larger power.

Good luck and send pictures.

97BossHammer 08-05-2003 12:19 PM

Get Da BAJA!!!!

East Coast B 08-05-2003 12:53 PM

As stated above... I also love the lines of the scarab... and the cabin of the scarab would entice me... If the scarab had the 500's, it would be a no brainer for me... How much importance do you put on the cabin ammenities?? If not much, go with the baja. How much weight difference is there in the two that they have the same top end???

baja27 08-05-2003 01:03 PM

Thanks for the replies. East Coast B the Outlaw is heavier, by how much I don't know. The Outlaw has more power, but being heavier is the same speed as the Scarab.

29Fever 08-05-2003 01:14 PM


Originally posted by baja27
The engine bay is nicer in the 40, ton of room.
Good point. Since the 40 is set up for trips, I bet it is huge with only twins in it.

CigDaze 08-05-2003 01:54 PM

Here's what you'd be looking at, minus the 3rd engine.
Same year, race layup, simpson interior...It's a BIG boat.

baja27 08-05-2003 02:27 PM

Baja Daze that's a cool site. I guess the guy that ownes that boat made the exhaust come out the side, it's pretty wild. Is it a friend of your's?

JUSTONCE 08-05-2003 02:50 PM

Did the factory exhaust for the frony motor merge 2-1 then come out the middle. In the transon pic it looks like a plug in the middle.

Adivanman 08-05-2003 02:57 PM

Yes, the factory rigging had the center exhaust merge 2 into 1 and go out though the transom.

CigDaze 08-05-2003 02:59 PM


Originally posted by baja27
Baja Daze that's a cool site. I guess the guy that ownes that boat made the exhaust come out the side, it's pretty wild. Is it a friend of your's?
Yes, it is wild. Awesome rig! And Yes he is!
Funny, those motors look just like stock motors. :)

CigDaze 08-05-2003 03:03 PM

Like Adivanman said, stock the center engine exhaust will collect into a y-pipe and exit out the back in the middle(you can see the old tip that is plugged)...

cuda 08-05-2003 03:37 PM

Nick, is that the one at Thunder Marine? Looks like St Pete Beach in the picture running outside.

CigDaze 08-05-2003 03:45 PM

Cuda, yep...it spent some time there getting some goodies.

97BossHammer 08-05-2003 04:45 PM

Daze - that is a fine boat your friend has.....how fast will she run?

CigDaze 08-05-2003 04:59 PM

It certainly is a beautiful boat!
It's FAST! ;)

Tinkerer 08-05-2003 10:47 PM

If the hull has a warranty then Wellcraft has to stand behind it. If they don't do the work then they will have to pay someone else to do it. I personally would have no problem buying another SCARAB.

baja27 08-06-2003 08:03 AM

Baja Daze what did your buddy do to the motors?

CigDaze 08-06-2003 08:25 AM

Don't remember all the specifics, but they're freshened up a bit but make a lot more hp than stock. Maybe he'll chime in here is he finds the thread.

Adivanman 08-06-2003 09:27 AM


Originally posted by Baja Daze
Don't remember all the specifics, but they're freshened up a bit but make a lot more hp than stock. Maybe he'll chime in here is he finds the thread.
Come on Nick,

Everybody here on OSO knows that there is nothing that can be done to these engines to make more HP. :)

And why bother trying, even if you could, it would not be enough to make a difference. ;)

And if you could, and if it did, what's the point anyway?

Besides, we're not done yet....

CigDaze 08-06-2003 10:33 AM

I know, I know...shucks.
But I thought I'd at least leave you two 'scientists' with some inkling of hope. ;)


:)

Adivanman 08-06-2003 10:58 AM

It's the hope that kills you.
Monty Python


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