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rouxsterre 09-04-2003 07:52 PM

OT - US Automaker on the right Track
 
Hats off to Cadillac - at least they're trying.
This sort of thing continues, I could give up my 540i, and buy AMERICAN. . .

CTS-V
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....article_id=719

XLR
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0307_lux/

Long articles, but worth it . . .

FeverFan 09-04-2003 07:58 PM

I saw that at the car show last year. It is fine! But for $76,250, I'd rather have a boat. :D

Erie Desire 09-04-2003 07:58 PM

Re: OT - US Automaker on the right Track
 

Originally posted by rouxsterre
Hats off to Cadillac - at least they're trying.
This sort of thing continues, I could give up my 540i, and buy AMERICAN. . .

So what are you waiting for/:D That new Caddy is the Cat's A$$

rouxsterre 09-04-2003 08:01 PM


Originally posted by FeverFan
I saw that at the car show last year. It is fine! But for $76,250, I'd rather have a boat. :D
$76,250 for the XLR - but the CTS-V is upper 40's. . . (I already got the boat). . .

puder 09-04-2003 08:02 PM

fronteht qaurter views eth XLR looks like a mustang.

my biggest issue with them is the lack of interior finish. The interiors (you luxuary part ofa luxuary car) still kind of blows chunks. And i've never beena a fan of the "chiseled" look. I find there styling to be ornamental at best. Interior wise fit and finish (reguardless of styling) isn't up to task either.

BUT they are getting better. Or perhaps BMW exterior stylign is just getting funkier :( still nobody comes close to eth interior on eth new 7 series. And for convertables the exterior styling on the new sl500 is gorgeous. And i'm not a mercedes fan at all. The damn auto tranny only pisses me off though...

rouxsterre 09-04-2003 08:05 PM

I really disagree with the Mustang analogy. I think the XLR is a much more successful implementation of the 'chiseled' look than the CTS. But hey, they're trying.
At least one American automaker is TRYING. . .

rouxsterre 09-04-2003 08:11 PM


Originally posted by puder
my biggest issue with them is the lack of interior finish. The interiors (you luxuary part ofa luxuary car) still kind of blows chunks.
The interior is probably not up to Euro standards, but ->
Motor Trend
The XLR interior is graced with superb leather buckets, handsome eucalyptus-wood insets, and patterned-aluminum accents. Almost every imaginable convenience is standard, including GPS navigation, heated and cooled seats, a voice-activated telephone, a spectacular Bose stereo with additional headrest speakers, and gauges designed in concert with famed Italian jeweler Bulgari.

rouxsterre 09-04-2003 08:13 PM

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I LIKE it . . . (but then again, I drive a Fountain).

FeverFan 09-04-2003 08:21 PM


Originally posted by rouxsterre
I LIKE it . . .
I do too. One thing for sure, it is a lot nicer than their last 2 seater (Alante).

CAP071 09-04-2003 08:45 PM

That is BLING BLING and PIMPIN I wonder if santa will leave me one

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 12:15 AM

An American automobile manufacturer is making an effort to EARN my money.

Hopefully the others will learn. Get rid of the front-wheel-drive crap sedans, and the sideways-mounted V6, and allow us to use premium if we want.

Jeeezusss, it's about time.

puder 09-05-2003 12:32 AM

it looks ok in the pic you posted above

puder 09-05-2003 12:36 AM

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ok the pics aren't exactly the same but the two car share a VERY similar line.

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 12:46 AM


Originally posted by puder
ok the pics aren't exactly the same but the two car share a VERY similar line.
Puder . . . I just don't see it.

Doesn't mean it's not there, . . . . I just don't see it.

Iggy 09-05-2003 05:17 AM

Puder, you're right. There is a strong resemblance.
Looks good though.

RollWithIt 09-05-2003 05:42 AM

I dont think anybody would have trouble telling the two apart on the street. Unfortunately, you know they are not gonna leave the Z06's LS6 motor in the CTS-V when it hits the street. It will probably get a detuned version of the LS1. Which is a power house in its own rights.

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 03:26 PM

Either way, either motor, it's a step in the right direction.

puder 09-05-2003 04:07 PM

roux i'll give you that. It won't be sitting in my driveway but it is a step.

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 04:19 PM

90 year old widow, and an Enzo in the driveway . . .

GLH 09-05-2003 06:34 PM

Wait a year or two Roux and you'll be able to buy it with the typical 60% depriciation Cadillac get in the first 18 month!

They're on the right track however 400HP rear wheel drive, the front of the CTS still looks a little goofy tough.

ROUGHSTUFF 09-05-2003 08:10 PM

I had an XLR to drive an it was fun fun fun! The way the hardtop convertible folds away is very cool. It also has adaptive cruise which takes getting used to but is great after you get past the desire to want to hit the brakes yourself. I loved the car and didn't want to stop driving!

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 09:16 PM


Originally posted by GLH
They're on the right track however 400HP rear wheel drive, the front of the CTS still looks a little goofy tough.
With some subtle changes, I think the CTS could be a relatively handsome sedan. The XLR, however, is already there. I think it's a really unique, really AMERICAN look.

rouxsterre 09-05-2003 10:21 PM

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I never did go for the 'louver' grille on the original CTS.
This is WAY better.

Audiofn 09-05-2003 10:34 PM

UGLY is all I have to say about that. I HATE to look of their cars over the last few years. No one does it as well as the Italians but then again they can not keep them running :D:D

28SS 09-08-2003 07:54 AM

fyi

as one who helped develope this
package the ls6 will be in it ! watch out
for the new sts-v with xlr eng pkg!

Sydwayz 09-08-2003 08:18 AM

The CTS-V is straight out of the Z06. I think it is rated for 400HP exactly, (loses 5 b/c of exhaust). I think it is an AWESOME automobile, am REALLY leaning on Neda that we need to trade the 325XI in for one.


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