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Cat & Mice 09-07-2003 10:12 PM

Merc 5 Blade prop??
 
Anyone know if and when the new 5 blade will be released??

I have been waiting instead of spending the big $$ for the Herring's

Pyle

Griff 09-08-2003 12:41 AM

Don't know about the Mercs, but I have seen the 5 blade hydromotives advertised at like $950 each:eek:

throttleup 09-08-2003 07:52 AM

My understanding is that there are some casting issues with the Mercury 5 blades. Mercury has not assigned a part number to them yet. I have heard the retail price on them will be $1295.00. My guess is that the street price will be about $999.00. As soon as they are available we will stock them. None of this information is confirmed, just what I have heard in the industry.

Throttle Up Propellers

throttleup 09-08-2003 04:50 PM

My understanding is that there are some casting issues with the Mercury 5 blades. Mercury has not assigned a part number to them yet. I have heard the retail price on them will be $1295.00. My guess is that the street price will be about $999.00. As soon as they are available we will stock them. None of this information is confirmed, just what I have heard in the industry.

Throttle Up Propellers

Cat & Mice 09-09-2003 09:28 AM

Thanks for the info

I know about the hydro's but I thought thay only had 32 as the highest pitch. I need 36's.

Does anyone know if I can get the Hydro. 36 yet?

Pyle

John B 09-09-2003 02:15 PM

A 5 blade Hydromotive 33 is equivalent to a 36 B1. From my tests.

BenPerfected 09-09-2003 04:27 PM

B 1 vs. Hydomotive 5 blade
 
John,
What were your top MPH results of the Bravo 1 36" vs. the Hydromotive 5-blade 33".

GATORONE 09-09-2003 06:07 PM

5 blade herrings are a good 4 mph faster than 4 blades.

Plus they are 15 1/2 props.I have a set of 34 herrings and 28 hybromotive 5 blades for sell ,that have only been run once

John B 09-09-2003 09:03 PM

Ben,

Boat, 36 Skater, 500 efi's, x +2", 7800 lbs, looser sportmasters, 3 sets all labbed. 34 B1 =111@ 5500; 35 B1 = 111@5400; 33 Q5 (upped from 32's) =111@ 5300. I assumed 36L B1's would run about the same as the Q5's (5300)... Speeds are GPS, tacks are analog.

John

PS. We are Labbing the Sportmaster skegs for a test!!

mmwalters 09-09-2003 10:43 PM

Hi John I bought a pair of cleavers from you. Remember the big black box? Still looking for your lost 3mph? How do the cleavers run on your boat. What props were used to set the speed record with your boat?
Good luck Michael:fish:

BenPerfected 09-10-2003 08:25 AM

Gator,
What prop shaft are the Hydromotive 5-blades set up for? PM me a price for the pair.

Cat & Mice 09-10-2003 02:33 PM

Gato, How much for the 34 Herrings? those might be good for everyday props, You know pull the kids on the tube and stuff:eek:

I have a set of 36 B1 and I can spin the hell of of them. I am assuming that 35 or 36 5 blades would be right for when I want to go fast.

Pyle

GATORONE 09-10-2003 02:54 PM

Pyle,

Check your pm

John B 09-10-2003 06:24 PM

Michael, We are labbing the sportmasters now. I used to run 114 max light and 70 degrees with b1 34 labs at 5650 with stock lowers. I cracked 4 lowers from the side torque from the high X dimension.

The (kilo props) 15.75 x 34 outboard 3 blades burned a ton corning on plane and vibrated the whole boat all the way up to top end, and ran about 1 or 2 mph less than the lab Bravos.

How are your props running? Did I send you these wheels?

Thanks, John

mmwalters 09-10-2003 07:57 PM

John B yes you did send me the 15.75x34 3blades. They were of course a to big for my little fishing boat motors. 104mph at only 5800rpm Just got them back from Throttle Up cut down to 15'' diameter. Have not had a chance to run them hard yet. The previous set of 15x34s ran 109 at 6200rpm. Those props are a little unusual as they had quite a bit of rake twisted in to them. So I am not sure how they will work. I did try a set of labed 34 bravos lent to me by Shawn. Boy they put my boat right to sleep. Had to trim motors way up to break the props loose just to get on plane and only would run about 102mph. Anyhow thanks Shawn.
Did you get the motor problem fixed in your formula? Hope those sportmasters cases slove your lower unit problem. What is involved in Labing a lower?
Good luck and keep us posted Michael

Sonny Spectre 30 09-10-2003 08:25 PM

Yeah, tell us more aboout labbing those sportmasters.

ted lamparty 09-10-2003 08:38 PM

hydromotive does not make there own props; they're re-boxed. Question. Are merc and hydromotive buying the same 5 blade and reselling it?

John B 09-10-2003 10:27 PM

Labbing sportmasters: The skegs on these things is like a 1/4" piece of aluminum beveled on both ends, kinda like the propeller on a tug boat. We are duplicating the shape and taper of a stock Bravo skeg including the depth.

John B 09-10-2003 10:30 PM

Michael, We got the Formula fixed. I'm not sure which problem you are asking about.

mmwalters 09-10-2003 11:01 PM

Hey John When I talked with you in the late fall I believe you were having power or rpm issues with one motor. 500efi Right?:frog:

throttleup 09-11-2003 08:27 AM

Hydromotive does make their own props! They are not reboxed! Hydromotive designs and markets their own props and they own the molds to the props. Only the foundry work is sub contracted out. The Herring, Hydromotive and Mercury 5 blade props are all different. The blades have different designs and pitch progression as well as different cupping.

By the way the Hydromotive 5 blades are now available in 33 and 34 pitch.

John B 09-11-2003 08:40 PM

Michael, The motors were 525's.
Props were off 80, tacks were off 120, and the motors were off 60, all in the same direction. So I replaced the tacks with digitals and tweaked the one prop. The power loss was the Corsa tips, now the're gone and gained at least 3 mph.
How are you doing?

Check new post on labbing sportmasters.

mmwalters 09-11-2003 10:32 PM

John B I had a similar problem about 15yrs ago. First time in the water for the season one motor down 500rpm and speed down 5mph. Chased the problem all summer. As it turned out no problem to fix one bad tach and bad speedo but it sure did drive me nuts trying to find the problem.
Any how doing well but having prop issues of my own Threw a blade off my good props 15x34 labs that ran 109+mph. Working with 3 other sets including yours. Matt and Julie at throttle up have been very helpful. Still I have only seen a best of 105.2 so far. Matt cut 3/4'' of diameter of those cleavers you sold me but interestingly enough the rpm did not really come up. Guess we will cut some blade area next.
Keep us up to date on your skeg work results.
Michael :drool:

John B 09-12-2003 10:09 AM

Nice floor! Where is the cat?

MY quess is 4900 @ 69 with average load, Those new exhaust tips are killing you!

mmwalters 09-12-2003 11:04 AM

You may want to try one of mercs lab 2 1/5 blade cleaver. It don't work worth a dam but it is cheap

John B 09-12-2003 12:56 PM

Don't you love it when they break from the back to the front? Thats when they like to hit the cavitation plate too!

mmwalters 09-12-2003 04:06 PM

John I feel lucky all I lost was the carrier bearing. About $300 O yea the prop. Hey Julie can you fix it?:D

ted lamparty 09-15-2003 04:58 PM

The last time I was at hydromotive, they were taking props out of a yellow box that said turbo and putting them their own box that said hydromotive.

Peconic 09-15-2003 05:42 PM

Ted: As Throttle-Up said: "Only the foundry work is sub contracted out." I own a 27pitch and a 29pitch 5 blade Hydromotive (labbed by Throttle-Up.) I won't touch anything else. I don't care who pours the steel.


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