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1Malibu 09-29-2003 02:46 PM

Fountain Value
 
Looking at a 2000 42' Fountain Lighting with twin staggered 500efi's. 195hrs., very clean boat from pics. No trailer. Owner says 80mph with the step hull. Asking 196k with a 15,000lb lift included.

Trying to get an idea of value before making the short trip to view the boat. I know I didn't't get the exact list of other options that are on the boat...but hopefully someone can give me a ballpark idea.

Caincando1 09-29-2003 03:05 PM

Is that "Double stuff"?

Dock Holiday 09-29-2003 03:16 PM

Hope this might help out.

I had a friend to buy a new (left over) 2000 model at the end of the 2000 season. It was a Lightning, 500 EFI's staggered and very nice except it did not have A/C or a pump out head.

The boat would run 80 MPH and rode and handled GREAT!

He paid $215,000 new. In June of the following year he wanted a faster boat and went to trade it in on a new 42 with BIG power. The offered him $165,000 trade in. He called me and asked if I wanted it for the same $165,000. I could not swing it at the time. That did not include the trailer, and I did not have anything to tow it with.

One of those deals I missed out on. He traded it in and probably regrets it. The big power was a BIG mistake.

Anyway, I think based on this that the price is too high.

CAP071 09-29-2003 03:38 PM

With the economy the way it is Low ball them. Go real low if he wants it that bad he can always come up in price. Work the price from the basement and come up.


:D Beside tell them you measured the boat and it seems shorter then advertised:crazy:

wannabe 09-29-2003 03:55 PM

Too High
 
I have seen 42 Ftn w/ 500's staggered for 135k with trailer.

Values are down, end of season.

hp500efi 09-29-2003 06:06 PM

I have seen that boat also. He hangs out around Wabasha and on Lake Pepin alot. That is the one with the large 42 in yellow on the sides of the hull. Not sure if I like the arch on that boat. I think he keeps it near Wabasha or in Parkside marina.

I have been on the river with him and it seems to run fine.

DaveP 09-29-2003 07:23 PM

Trenton Marine has a BRAND NEW 42 Fountain for $190k. YES - BRAND NEW

Ask for John Basset and tell him Dave Patnaude told you to call.

105mph_38_2003 09-30-2003 12:40 AM

Why did he regret the big power? 900 sc's and #6's?

DaveP 09-30-2003 07:33 AM


Originally posted by 105mph_38_2003
Why did he regret the big power? 900 sc's and #6's?
Hummmm

50hr service of the tops = $10,000-$15,000
100hr complete rebuild = $30,000 - $40,000

Could be..........:D :D

Caincando1 09-30-2003 08:39 AM


Noper....Double Stuf is a 2002 owned by a friend of mine.
Yep your right. So this is the 42 that was on the poker run? The one that HP500efi described.

Brian

Caincando1 09-30-2003 09:38 AM

I'm not one to go around bad mouthing people. So I won't. I'll just say that there are allot of people including some board members that have talked(or at least attempted to) this guy and no one has a very high opinion of him. I'm personally never talked to him thought.

I will say that boat is gorgeous! I should have some pics of it here in the next couple days. Along with a couple hundred more of the poker run. And last weekend we received confirmation that our helicopter and pilot are a go for next year. Sweet!


Brian

1Malibu 09-30-2003 12:14 PM

Thanks for the info. However, as someone pointed out about Trenton Marine really makes a person think!

later 09-30-2003 12:28 PM

Like everything else prices vary drastically, now you have to find out why. when it comes to boats and cars the difference is usually in condition. ive seen all kinds of boats priced were i thought that was a great deal only to go look at them to find them a terd, torn upholstry or poorly repaired scratches and chips etc. the term good or excellent condition has many different meanings. a person that buys the cheapest he could find, often realizes why down the road. Been there done that.

later

Dock Holiday 09-30-2003 12:37 PM


Originally posted by 105mph_38_2003
Why did he regret the big power? 900 sc's and #6's?
No problem with the #6 drives, but the motors were garbage! They were custom built by Joey Griffith (spelling?). The boat was in the water six times and broke six times.

The guy that bought the boat after it was traded in had to replace both engines. He found that different brand components were used in the same engine. It looked like they built the engines from pieces laying around on the shop floor. And this boat was sold as NEW!

CB 09-30-2003 10:58 PM

42
 
whose motors were they ??

105mph_38_2003 10-01-2003 01:43 AM

There is a 42' at Pier 57 that has been there a very long time, I think a car dealer owns it? I was told that JG did the best 900 SC rebuilds around but have no first hand experience...

Caincando1 10-01-2003 12:37 PM

http://www.stillwaterboatsales.com/S...sp?BoatUID=162

This must be the boat.


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