Like Tree0Likes

Ot: Concealed Guns...What are your thoughts

Reply
Old 10-07-2003, 07:20 AM
  #21
packinair
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Iggy

My brother lives in Ohio and he has his carry permit.
Ohio does not have or allow any CCW. even an off duty police officer can not carry legaly in ohio
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 07:37 AM
  #22
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,215
Default

I agree with pretty much everything that has already been said here. There would definately need to be some type of mandatory training to prevent idiots from obtaining permits, lets face it people, pointing and pulling the trigger of a loaded gun that someone hands you, and actually knowing how to properly handle and operate a firearm are 2 compleley different things
THRILLSEEKER is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 07:40 AM
  #23
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Donzigerl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgia
My Boats: Donzi 2000
Posts: 292
Default

Ohio is working on CCW, it hasn't passed yet tho.

Quote:
even an off duty police officer can not carry legaly in ohio
Untrue Pack. Just got off the phone with my brother who is a retired cop/detective (Troy, Ohio) he carried one "legally" off duty for 22 years. He even quoted me the sec thats it in. A private investigator can also get a permitt from the state to carry one.


I personally am all for it. I've been taught that "Never pull a gun unless your going to use it". I've been shooting since I was 9 years old, used to go to the shooting range with my brother.
Hubby and I target practice occasionally for fun and to practice.
Donzigerl is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 07:56 AM
  #24
Charter Member #927
Charter Member
 
Payton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: IN
My Boats: 1991 34' Super Hawaii
Posts: 4,817
Default

I've had my CC permit for 15 years and have very seldom carried and have never had to pull a gun. In indiana we only have to get a state Police and FBI background check, no training. I think a training requirement would be a good idea
Payton is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 07:58 AM
  #25
Registered
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Niskayuna, NY
My Boats: 2009 FORMULA 292
Posts: 5,543
Default

The right to bear arms is a Constitutional Right provided to us by our forefathers. It is such so that if the citizens of this great nation feel that the government has become to powerful they would be armed and able to counteract such attrocities. Additionally, it is the firearm along with the brave men and women that have provided us our freedom. It is my firm belief that every person who is a law abiding citizen has the RIGHT to own and carry a firearm. However, with that comes responsibility. Many excellent points were stated above that need not be repeated, i.e. responsibility, knowledge, etc etc. I also feel that it is NOT in the individual's state's power to supercede the Constitution and thereby limit the manner in which you own a gun, i.e. the ability to carry concealed. As was stated earlier, whether law abiding citizens have these permits or not, the vast majority of weapons used in crime are weapons that are obtained illegally. Therefore, restricting honest law abiding citizens is merely giving the upper hand to the criminal. I hope none of you ever have to draw or use a weapon to protect yourselves, family or friends. However, if you ever do, please be prepared for what may follow.
Shane is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 08:06 AM
  #26
Registered
 
ofshore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SE, Michigan
Posts: 933
Default

I think Michigan has allowed it for 3 or 4 years now fortunately they require background checks and 1 or 2 day course depending on where you take it. Every citizen should have the right to protect themselves, the criminals already carry without a permit. Hopefully people take the time to learn how to handle their weapons it's one thing to carry it around, it's another to be forced to use it.
ofshore is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 08:31 AM
  #27
Registered
 
NASTY HABIT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Orlando
My Boats: just a filter
Posts: 1,956
Default

have carried w/out a permit and have carried w/ one.

I have readied myself in a couple cases to pull the trigger but have always found an alternative to actually using my weapon. ie: evasive action.

I do agree we have the right to bear arms and I always will , I would much rather get caught with it than without it.
NASTY HABIT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 08:38 AM
  #28
Registered
 
LapseofReason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stafford Va.
My Boats: 98 NORTECH 5000V
Posts: 2,806
Default

I have one, but won't pull my gun unless me or my family or friends lives are in danger. I don't think shooting somebody for taking my car stereo will go over well in court. But if I do shoot I will make sure they are dead, dead men can't talk. A Judge told me that, he flat out told me make sure he's dead and don't talk to anyone until you have a lawyer even if that means spending a night in jail.
LapseofReason is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 08:39 AM
  #29
Just Say N2O
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I also have a CCW, living in Michigan. At first, as a well educated, constituationally aware guy, I begrudgingly took the 12 hour class because it was required. What an eye opener. Lots of things were brought up that I had never considered. During the session with the lawyer, I learned that most of the "conventional wisdom" about what you can and can't do, is 100% wrong, and will land you a long stay in the big house.

I originally got it because I am out a lot late at night, and like has been stated so many times above, I believe it is my right to be able to defend myself. Philisophically, I look at carry a gun like wearing a seat belt, or wearing a helmet. You hope to go through your entire life never needing any of them, but if you ever should, you probably REALLY need them.

The reality is that the left has been extremely effective at training society in general (the "sheepeople") with all kinds of nonscense about guns. If you have negative ideas regarding guns, I strongly suggest that you get some real information and read it. You can't argue with the truth. On the simplest level, think about it. If you were a criminal, by definition, you aren't playing by the rules. Which would you prefer? That every one of your potential victems was disarmed, or that every 2nd or 3rd one be armed, and you didn't know who was? Of course you would prefer the easy pickings, with no chance of you being shot.

I will say that people shouldn't be allowed to carry without going through a thorough class.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2003, 08:58 AM
  #30
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: MIAMI, FL
My Boats: 4 BOATS KILLED :)
Posts: 1,262
Default

Florida allows military trained people to carry with just an FBI background check. We work in Opa Locka (rough place). We have had three strong arm (armed) robberies within a block of our shop. I am packing in the interest of life and limb.
BROWNIE is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 AM.


Copyright 2011 OffShoreOnly. All rights reserved.