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Alisyn Synthetics Oils
I've been an OSO member since Oct 2000, member # 67 or something like that. I've read most if not all of the posts and comments, both pro and con about the use of synthetic oils. The engine shop that maintains my engines recently did an oil change for me with Alisyn oil. They did the oil change at their sole expense because they wanted me to see what it might do for me. They believe very strongly that it truly is a better lubricant than all the others. That includes Royal Purple, Red Line, Amsoil, and the rest. Of all the forums and posts I've read here, I've never seen anyone talk about Alisyn oil. In fact, before my last oil change, I had never heard of Alisyn. The test data and specifications listed on their website are most impressive. After all, it is their website.
I recommend, to anyone looking for a better lubricant, go to www.alisyn.com. Check it out and add some comments here. My own experience is very limited and recent so I'm hoping someone here can offer some feedback based on their own experiences with Alisyn. Who knows, it just might be the real deal. |
I'd consider yourself lucky you got the free oil change! I'm not familiar with this company either. The info on the site looks good, but it's vague. They really provide no real technical info that I saw. Specifically what oil are they comparing it to? Tested by an independent lab? I'm sure it's good oil, but I won't be paying $9 a qt for it! If those numbers on shear and friction are correct and these numbers are compared to a good syn. oil, then you SHOULD see a performance improvement by cutting the oil friction almost in half. You tell us... what did you see???
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You're member # 66 ;)
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I won't be paying $9.00 a qt either. My shop said about $7.00. Oil changes will definitely be more expensive if I choose to stay with the Alisyn oil since each engine requires 8 qts. I've only put about three ( 3 ) hrs on the motors since the oil change so I don't have any significant findings to report. My engine idle has gone up a little. Oil pressure pretty much the same as previously. ( I have been a 15/50 Mobil1 Synthetic user for years ) valvetrain noise is virtually non existent. I have twin 502's with all Crane valve train. Gold rockers, roller lifters/cam, Inconel and extreme duty valves, pretty good stuff. I really did not expect the oil to make too much if any difference in performance but perhaps it will. What I'm really hoping is that my motors will last me a lot longer as a result of using the absolute best oil I can use and changing oil frequently ( 25hr intervals ).
I'll post my experience with Alisyn here soon. Too bad it's not summertime anymore because I'd have some good experience in a day. Is Alisyn the best. I certainly don't know. But, I believe it is worth looking at to find out if it can deliver on it's promises. |
Pure Energy,
Oh well, what's a couple of numbers between old friends ? |
I'd save your money. Mobil 1 is used by most of motor sports top teams. Even though it's free (all oils are free to top teams), they will always use the best available. How many are using your oil? Stick with Mobil 1 and change it at frequent regular intervals and wear won't be an issue. That is unless your guys are going to continue suppling you with free synthetic oil!
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I ran there type 2 gear oil in my Imco b1 drive . The prob i had with it was it foamed real bad, and there was not any water in it. I lot of the outboard drag racers use it .its thin you could spin the prop like it did not have any thing attached.
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SS930
There's always doubters. There's always someone who says don't do this or do that. I didn't say either. All I said was here's another oil that seemingly no one here has seen or tested. If your reasoning is based on "because they use it" then if you like that, OK. Have you tried Alisyn ? For me, I'm always open to, at the very least, take a look. When synthetic oils were first introduced, many said, "all the Indy cars and Stock cars use petroleum based oil, so it must be the best". I guess they were right ! Yes ! Or, maybe not. If that's what you believe, that's great. For me, I'm taking a look. And I'll take a look at the next and the next. That's just the way I am. Technology makes improvements all the time. How will you ever know if somethings good or not if you don't research it a little. |
Baker Engineering (Cat-Can-Do) uses the Alisyn product I believe and they recommended it to me after they rebuilt my motor and drive. I don't have a ton of experience with it so I can't report results.
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Sorry, couldn't resist :D
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We have used Alisyn since the early 90's and have had excellent results with the 2-cycle oil in high rpm outboards. We have also used their drive oil with good results even in higher hp Bravo drives. Oil is always a good basis for argument so I let the customer pick, but for what it's worth I like the following.
Redline - High horsepower Bravo drives Alisyn - 2 cycle high performance engines and outboard gearcases. Amsoil - stock of mildly modified 2 and 4 stroke engines, automatic transmissions and differentials. Mobile 1 - If the customer wants it Mercury HP gearlube - Stock and slightly higher hp Bravos and Alphas Pennzoil Long Life CF-rated (non synthetic) - stock gas and diesel 4 stroke engines. Factory brands of 2-stroke oil (Quicksilver, Yamalube, Johnson, etc)-for any stock outboard or PWC (the factory isn't in the oil business and they want the engine to last during the warranty period so it is usually good stuff). There are hardly any bad performance oils out there but there are some expensive "snake oils" and additives that I didn't believe in. |
Originally posted by deboatmon SS930 There's always doubters. There's always someone who says don't do this or do that. I didn't say either. All I said was here's another oil that seemingly no one here has seen or tested. If your reasoning is based on "because they use it" then if you like that, OK. Have you tried Alisyn ? For me, I'm always open to, at the very least, take a look. When synthetic oils were first introduced, many said, "all the Indy cars and Stock cars use petroleum based oil, so it must be the best". I guess they were right ! Yes ! Or, maybe not. If that's what you believe, that's great. For me, I'm taking a look. And I'll take a look at the next and the next. That's just the way I am. Technology makes improvements all the time. How will you ever know if somethings good or not if you don't research it a little. Second, their oils have been around for more than a couple of years. I don't know much about them, but they aren't new. If they are so revolutionary, don't you think the top dogs would be using them by now? If they are so impressive, why isn't there independent testing proving it? The technical data, where is it? All of the major oil companies post additives, industry testing standards, and specs for each of there lines. I didn't see any of this on their site. Nor do they even say what oil and viscosity they're comparing their oil to. So how can we do a little research as you've suggested??? It may be a good product, I don't know. I'm just suggesting not to spend twice the amount on a product that hasn't proven to be better than the industry standard Mobil1 until someone can show that it's better. And no, I don't use only Mobil 1. I use whatever group four or five synthetic is on sale and change it very often. BTW, lower friction (increased HP) can be had by lowering oil viscosity... but at the cost of protection. |
My friend and I have been using Alisyn gear lube in our Bravos since 1991 and have never had a drive fail except for one prop shaft. We run 650 HP to 750 NA engines. I bought their gear lube in 1991 because it was cheaper than the Merc gear lube at that time. It also lowered my drive temperature.
I used to run their engine oil but my engine builder did not like the black residue that stayed on the engine parts. Their oil does not have any moly in it. |
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