J Leno's new bike
 

The American Choppers presented Jay witth a refurbished 1930 ????
I never did understand the name..Supposidly Larance of Arabia drove it.


Here are a couple of shots as they unvailed it on last nites show..

another

last one

Thats a nice ride. I wonder how much they altered it from original.

OCC, those guys are great :)

I think Lawrence or Arabia was killed on a motor cycle. Maybe this is the one???

Thats a ground up replica of Jays Brough Superior. It is powered by a 103 inch Knucklehead motor!! Can you say grenade?? If Paul Sr.'s arms get any bigger he is gonna need help carrying them!!!

It's neither a replica nor a restored bike. What they said was that Jay asked for a modern bike inspired by his Brough Superior but distinct in its own right. So, Paul Jr. designed and built the one above with some visual references to the Superior but it is a new bike and does not copy Jay's original. And, it looked awesome!!

He has a real one that he won't ride, so he showed it to them and said he would like something like it. They did sort of a "representation" of it, but it is all new stuff.

Cool bike. Looks like a reach to the bars howeverf.

Jon

Orange County Choppers...not American Choppers!!;) ;)

That's not a Brough Superior.

It's a Bro Superior. (not a racial slur, just an updated urban bike).

Sir Lawrence ran off the road and was tossed into a pasture when his Brough hit the ditch/fence. DOA.

And those arms...
I bet he can't reach around to wipe his butt they're so big (I'd hate to be in charge of washing his underwear).

You think he got those arms naturally or with supplements (legal or otherwise)? Not really important but if he got them through years of lifting, I'd be impressed even more than I am.

When I was 20, I had 20" biceps with nothing more than cheese sandwiches, peanut butter, and lots of beef. (I was 5'6" at the time: I'm a towering 5' 7 3/4" these days with 17" arms and a 96" waist).

Thing is, when I was 20 I spent 4 hours a day in the gym.

Being "not a kid anymore" and surely no time for 4-hour days at the gym, I can't help but say that I "believe" he has some assistance from chemicals.

But these days, nothing is natural anymore ('cept my belly and Calista Flockhart's boobs) so no biggie. Lyle Alzado would tell you to stay away from 'roids, but people tend to generate their own risk to reward comparisons.

wonder if it will be an episode on Discovery.

Paul senior is a big dude..I am going to be bet nothing but natural supplements

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mcollinstn
[B]When I was 20, I had 20" biceps with nothing more than cheese sandwiches, peanut butter, and lots of beef. (I was 5'6" at the time: I'm a towering 5' 7 3/4" these days with 17" arms and a 96" waist).

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Mc..96' waiste??? Photos pleeza..:eek: :eek: :D :D

I spend a lot of time in the gym. I've been lifting heavily for years and I'd say he's likely natural. He carries a lot of body fat on his upper body including his arms. He's clearly been lifting for a long time, but his goal is obviously not to get ripped, but rather to put on shear mass. A fair amount of his size is genetics. The remainder is daily dedication at the gym... and eating like a horse. It wouldn't surprise me if he took a cycle or two of GH (growth hormone) sometime in the past by looking at the size of his jaw, hands, and feet. But he doesn't show the typical signs of steroid use. Steroid users have very oily skin (zits!) because the steroids are injected in an oil based carrier. They stay in the body for weeks. Ovals have the advantage of not using the oil for transfer, but there effects only last for hours so constant intake is a must for benefits to be achieved. Long term oral steroid usage will destroy the liver very quickly. The rest of the normal user symptoms apply to oral and injectable steroids. They include balding (at his age he'd likely be bald from longterm usage), bloating (water retention... he's just chunky), and being short-tempered (roid-rage) due to the increased testosterone elevations. He has a bad temper but so do I and I'm not taking them! Other side-effects happen below the belt, but despite public misconceptions those side effects can't often be visually noticed. I'd say he's just genetically a big guy that's been lifting for a long time and likes his pasta.

I actually don't think he takes steriods. I was wondering, however, if you could get that big without taking protein powder, creatine, andro, hgh or something. Seems like his genetics might allow for that. Still, he's big. And, it should be noted that I am 6'3, 226lbs and spend up to 5 hours exercising a day (I just ran a marathon, lift, do calisthentics - chinups, pullups, pushups, dips, supermans, neck 4s, etc., box, practice brasilian jiu jitsu and other things) and I have no mass on my arms at all. Though, in fairness I'm going for useable muscle and endurance not size. But, even if I was trying to get huge, I doubt that I could without assistance.

Regardless, the bikes they build are awesome and they seem like good guys you'd enjoy hanging out with.

If you dont think he is on the sauce your dellusional!! Paul Jr. is a decent size kid but dad aint all natural.

I think OCC is a good show but I get tired of the *****ing. All they ever do is complain and yell at each other. I like the work and the show but lets cut the crap and build bikes.

The old man is retaining so much water he looks like a big ole cactus!!!

Miller,
You're right, the way you are currently training it would be impossible for you to throw on some big muscle mass. I lift for about 90 minutes five days a week. During those 90 minutes I may only do 16-18 sets with no more than six reps per set. I can lift a hell of a lot of weight, but I would probably fall over dead if had to run two or three miles. By contrast, in high school I held a state record in distance running and I was always at the top in 400m swimming competition. It all boils down to what you are conditioning your body for. You are correct that genetics play a big roll in an individuals ability to build muscle mass, as does age. During the first two or three years that I started lifting (for mass), I put on about 40 lb., most of it was muscle. Since then I'm lucky to gain 4 solid pounds per year. I did this without taking any drugs or supplements. By contrast a thirty year old friend started lifting with me a couple years ago and I'd say he's up about 20 lb. He is training at my intensity under my same schedule. I really doubt he will ever see the gains I did and my guess is it's mainly do to genetics.

Can someone get big w/o taking drugs? Absolutely! A friend of mine is incredibly large (6' 1" and 275 lb.), all drug free. Granted he's been lifting for about 16 years, but he's clean. I use to get really upset when people would say that I'm using steroids. It took A LOT of hard work to get to where I am now and it pissed me off that people couldn't respect that. Now I look at it as a compliment. People just automatically assume that if a person is very muscular, he must be using steroids. Up a certain point that's just not always the case. Yes, top level bodybuilders are taking huge quantities of everything that can dream up. There is a huge difference in body fat between Paul Sr. (25+% ?) and some pro bodybuilder (<5%), even though they may be nearly identical in height and weight! I've done a lot of playing around with my body fat levels. It's amazing how much strength and muscle mass you loss when you drop body fat. The more fat you have the easier it is to build muscle mass. Look at Paul's face and chin. He carries a lot of fat all over. The thing that Paul Sr. doesn't have is a huge spare tire around his waist... but you sure as hell aren't ever going to see his abs either! Everyone carries their body fat differently, in Paul Sr. case it's more flattering that most men with the same amount of body fat. I don't think he's on the juice. He looks like he's played with some GH in his day, and probably been pounding the weights pretty hard for many years.

Supplements? I have tried most of the OTC stuff you mentioned (protein powder, creatine, andro, hgh...) and I've found most of it to be a big waste of money. Of all of them, I've only noticed results taking creatine. This stuff does make a SLIGHT difference, but I've stopped taking it for health concerns. Like steroids, the creatine seems to make your body carry excess water but to a lesser extent. It does have some short term side effects and I'd bet long term effects will start popping up within the near future. I'll be amazed if it's still on the market ten years from now. Anyway, most of the supplements on the market are snake oil. You'd never know it by the $$$ spent on these products each year, but just about all of it is useless. People love to take shortcuts. They think if they spend $200 dollars a month on supplements, they too look like the guy on the bottle. Wrong. The only way to put on real size is to train hard (and properly) and let your body heal by resting. It takes an incredible amount of hard work, time, and dedication. Even these guys that look like freaks just don't get the credit they deserve. I don't care what drugs they're taking, it takes some serious work and discipline to get that big.

Just my 2 cents.

How tall is Paul Sr.? I've known short guys that look like Ahnold in pic's, but they're really ptetty small in stature, making everything else look bigger. I'll bet he's no taller than 5'11" maybe 6'.

I'll bet Paul Sr can kick any of your butts anytime.:D

Anyway you look at it, the guy's funny as hell when he gets worked up!


"What was was and what is is and..." :D :D :D

Like stated above....Paul is a big fella BUT If you ask him to take a little jog it's all over. He's the tipe of guy you have to stay infront of, way infront of. Just a little tid-bit- I have a good buddy that can rep 425 EIGHT times. I use to have a pic of him benching. You can clearly see a slight bow in the bar. HOLY chit! One night we went to a little get together, some idiot started to run his trap and BAMMO. The next thing I saw was the fella floppin' around on the floor. My friend hit the guy in the side of the noggin with ONE Left Hook. The poor bastard had to get 47 stiches. His ear was kinda of hangin....etc. etc. This guy is an animal. The thing that makes him so nasty is his speed. He is 6'3 240ish and without a doubt he is the fastest "big guy" I've ever seen in person. A brutal combo Sorry to ramble.

I agree that you can get big without the roids but it is hard. Do I think Sr. did that,, no. I think at some time he used a little help. He admitted on one show that his past was full of chemical abuses that he now regrets. Would not surprise me that roids was one of them. For the record, I am 6' 230lbs and all natural. By no means am I the biggest or strongest. Yeah I can stand to loose some body fat but that will happen in time. If I was able to go to the gym on a regular basis it would happen faster. I am lucky in that I have good genetics to put on body mass, muscle mass, easily. That is what I think is the biggest difference. The type of training helps but you need the genetics. Paul Sr. and Jr. both have that. You can tell by lookin at them.

gdftha, relax.
(I'm really only a tight 36 to loose 38 pant size)