Unfair Locking Of Thread
 

I think if the racers are going to be given a 'secret' section, the fans, which are the ones paying for the bulk of this site to survive should be able to comment.

Too Old's thread was perfectly fair, and I saw no reason to shut it down. I guess OSO has no freedom of speech.

Ernie

Here are the terms of the "Gold Membership" .....

"This membership will allow you access to all sections of the Bulletin Board and Photos Section of the website and will allow you to view attachments (pictures) in all sections. If you are interested in placing classifieds on the Bulletin Board, you will want to look at the Platinum Membership."

Notice the use of the word ALL.

I think that we all know were that thread was headed........ If it was not closed now it would have been later. However Fred thanks for letting us know about it.

Jon

That won't change, gotta love stipulations,:D We all have raced something at one time or another;)

add another membership Platinum plus
.........classifieds on the Bulletin Board, you will want to look at the Platinum Membership or if you would like to enter the racers forum you will want to look at the platinum + membership

I would think that more memberships would make it harder for OSO to operate. More memberships= more confusion, more confusion= more emails and phone calls to answer........... Just a thought.

Jon

more $$$

I think the racing needs to be all redone. No one is happy. And I thought Gold had all forum access also, uncensored section dosent work.

good, stay outa there you little punk:D

Troutly you really are post whoreing now :D:D COPY....PASTE :D

Dude did you see you are over 10,000!!!!!! You will be past me in a month or two I am guessing.

Jon

I posted this in the 'racers' area and that thread asked for comments from racers only, so I deleted what I wrote and will be linking it to here.


I think it is alright to have a private section for racers only, and they have enough to pay for besides another membership. There should be some rules in that section though. First of all I'm no racer and don't claim to be. The fans should be able to hear most of what the racers have to say, but I am sure they want their privacy when they are plotting, or scheming against and unknown entity. Maybe something should be set up with some sort of a calendar where access to the section is only allowed during certain hours and no pictures may be posted. This way the racers get their privacy, but the fans still get to see the pictures which they are posting.

just an idea.

I'm sure if everyone is involved in deciding the 'rules' of the private thread that we can come to a compromise instead of the racers just leaving us in the dark.

Another thing. The racers need TV personalities, to gain fan base the TV channels that everyone gets and not just the 'best cable package' need to be filming. We need this sport compared to NASCAR, and most people on this board do. But the outside world doesn't even know much about it accept if it comes to their city. A goo publicist and some money dumped into the TV channels that normal everyday people get would eventually get it comparable to NASCAR. Just take a look at what Monster Trucks do... right now they are closer to our quality of entertainment. They have specials on regular TV showing the workings of the trucks and history of their races. Their fan base is huge, and all they do is race in lame little laps which do not test the abilities of the trucks besides jumping and donuts.
Anyways... a lot of this sports problem is secrecy... and until I got a boat bigger and faster than most of the boats around here no one at the docks even wanted to talk with me. Now I talk to people who don't have boats, but if I see one of the ones who was too good with their boat I probably wouldn't carry a conversation with them, and have lowered the hatch just so they couldn't see. I don't have a boat anymore, and I know how the fans feel, if you guys keep on with the secrecy, you'll be losing fans instead of gaining.

Some things need to be talked about in privacy, but too much and people 'fans' start to distrust.

just my .02

I hope there are racers out there that when something need to be know by all will cut and paste it into the 'other' forums. For the most part the fans already feel distanced from the teams. It is awe inspiring just to talk to the driver and throttle man at the races. And for the bulk of the time many boats are roped of so the fan's can't even get good pictures. The drivers get in their trailers and aren't interested int he fans. Who is putting the show on? There wouldn't be a show without fans! This is not all teams, just a few of the 'big boys' The smaller teams seem to really have an interest in fans. These things need to change and be a required part of the races.

Ernie

Too Old is about to be the first to get his avatar poofed.
lol

lmao

I wonder who's $$ really supports this site? The "paying members" or some secret organization of which we the unwashed masses are not aware of? Since when is it against "board policy" to question descisions that change the overall public memberships use of the board so long as it is done within the confines of the already established "rules" of the board?

This is a sensitie subject, and one that's kind of hard to call for me.
I can see the logic of a private forum for racers, but where would it end? How about private forums then for:
1. Poker runners
2. Boat Clubs
3. Each different brand of boats
4. Shop owners on technical forums
5. Boat dealers
6. Sponsors


My point is, this is a PUBLIC FORUM.
If there is truly a need for a private forum for the racers, I am certain the resources exist to staart one off-site.
My non-racer .02

Agreed, we have decided to do a completely seperate entity funded by the ones involved. Thank you for your input.

OSO

Do I win a prize?:D :D :D :D :D

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I don't see an issue, as long as I'm not paying for it. If there's a separate or upgraded membership to be part of the racer's forum, fine with me..I don't care.
In all honesty, I think maybe the racers working some of their issues out in private is a good thing. Not everything needs to be aired out in public. Does the Sr. Mgmt. where you work invite everyone to Staff Meetings? Didn't think so.

Edit - guess I was a few minutes late on that one. OSO posted while I was typing. Good call guys..

Argument over
Come on people move on...nothing to see here;)

I will make you a prize...:D

That's a scary thought!:D :D
Unless it's one of your awesome plates! Very cool.:cool:

FWIW- I'm a slow typer too- and the phone callss interupting don't help.:D



I wanted to share some positive parallel info. Boating is my second addiction- Rockcrawling is my first- extreme Jeep type thing.

The pirate board (pirate4x4.com) in many ways parallels this forum. Just two months ago, a competitor only forum was introduced and has been quite helpful. The owner of the pirate board is an avid racer and he must grant access to team members for this forum.

here, many issues are hashed out openly and candidly without regard for politics, and/or concern of promoter's or sanctioning bodies "eavesdropping". As a side benefit, we are not cluttered with well intended but distracting opinions and rants from fans who sometimes serve to add fuel to any given fire.

We do have an "open" competion forum where events and issues are also discussed so the fans have their place to mingle with the racers to. So far I've seen only good results, the racers have an agreement not to share info from the racers forum.

As a performance boater (I'm dumb enough to own a 28 Pantera, 25 Daytona and an inboard ski boat right now- selling the last two) I am in no way offended by the racers wanting a vehicle for private discussions on racing topics.

Ken Blume

Agreed!;)