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Old 11-26-2003, 01:29 PM
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Interesting reading. I hope the real story emerges so no one here gets the wrong idea about the individuals involved.

Disrespect isn't acceptable in any form.
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Old 11-26-2003, 02:00 PM
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Stu does a good job, I have been on 2 of his runs. However, I don't think anyone has the right to scream at someone else in front of other people. In fact the other person is Stus customer. I know I have never ever screamed profanitys at any of my customers no matter how mad they made me. I heard Stu screamed on the radio, then very aggresivly approached the individual. Words were exchanged. The other person walked away. Stu started yelling at the other person in the boat. Stu was cursing every other word. With this the first person said, Stu, that's enough, your not right. Stu ran to the other person, stuck his chest out and belly bumper him while screaming in his face. They both, at the same time, got each other in a had lock. Stu, even being 6 inches taller and 80 lbs heavier was no match for the other person. Stu threw a few punches to the other persons rips and the other person threw 2 lightning fast blows to Stus face. Three liilte birdies flew around Stus head for a few minutes. Stu went, called the police and filed charges. I personlly think this was no matter for the police! If Stu would have won the fight would he have still called the police? I heard the other guys attourny is Roy Black, and they are now going after Stu.
I'd have to disagree. The disrespect starts the moment someone on the run decides not to follow the rules as outlined by Stu. When that happens that person is showing a lack of respect and consideration for his fellow boaters and their safety. For Stu to then warn them, regardless of the language is, in my opinion, acceptable. If the person did not break the rules then they wouldn't be treated to a barrage of explitives. Now, I know nothing about this particular incident (and it sounds pretty minor at least by the description above and also sounds like no one knew how to fight). I'm only stating that, while I wish cooler heads would always prevail both verbally and physically, I don't think it's fair to blame Stu. Afterall, if everyone followed the rules then the runs would be safer and no one would get screamed at.

There's an old saying: "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time." So, if you don't like getting yelled at, don't give anyone a reason to yell at you.
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Old 11-26-2003, 02:05 PM
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I saw the Travel Channel show as well and I can tell you that none of you would have tolerated a police officer berating you that way for a traffic or noise violation.
 
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Old 11-26-2003, 02:55 PM
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I'm confused here. So because someone did something against the rules accidently or on purpose than they are giving up there right to respect. I call B.S. It's simple, break the poker run rules in a manner that deserves repremant then you are asked to leave. There is no screaming, holloring or even arguing. Your done! See ya good by.

The cursing and be-littleing is a personality problem that doesn't belong in a situation like this. I'm truely suprised someone hasn't popped him along time ago.
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Once anger and profanity are injected into the mix, it takes the issue to the next level and puts the accused on the defensive. I'm not defending the fool who broke the rules, but it's possible both are wrong. If the intent is to escalate the confrontation, then cuss and yell as much as you'd like, the results will be interesting.
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I have known Stu for a long time and Stu has come a long way with his events.

Bottom line - if you don't want to follow the rules - DON'T JOIN AN ORGANIZED POKER RUN! For the buttholes that want to go out and do what they want to do whatever & whenever AND BE RECKLESS - join the Butt Holes Of America Poker Run Association.

KUDOS to Stu and I hope he cleans his clock in court.
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Old 11-26-2003, 06:54 PM
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I know both parties fairly well and like them both. they are both excited pretty easy. I feel bad it came to this. Stu and the other party go WAY back. Both guys lost their tempers. In my opinion you never go to blows with your friends and you never ever get the police involved especially when your friends. This whole ordeal sickens me! they should both be ashamed of themselves!
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so then who clocked who and why???
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The only difference is that the guy not following the rules goes back to work monday and continues to earn a living. Stu on the other hand can very easily lose his ability to do business if something bad happens. Imagine if somebody came to your business and did things that could end up causing you to lose everything.... He may have acted pissed but damn, he has everthing at stake from reputation to legal liability. If some poor schmo in a john boat got mowed down during a "show off" who do you think the attorneys will be looking to after the policy limits are exhausted on the boat owner?? Stu, thats who........
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they should both be ashamed of themselves!
Sorry - The jack ass behind the wheel of the poker run boat is the only one who should be ashamed. He is the one who made the decision sign up for the poker run. No one put a gun to his head. He broke the rules, got reprimanded (ok - it could have been maybe a little lower key) then Mr. Jack ass hauls off and hits Stu?

Stu - HANG HIS ASS OUT TO DRY IN COURT!
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