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CigDaze 11-25-2003 09:41 AM

KW-How would you guys feel about this?
 
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Safety?

CigDaze 11-25-2003 09:42 AM

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?

Sean 11-25-2003 09:55 AM

you definitely don't want to stab that pin like Billy Mauff did last year :) :)

R Addiction 11-25-2003 10:03 AM

WTF!!! Nick , was that in KW last weekend?:rolleyes:

CigDaze 11-25-2003 10:05 AM

John, yep it's KW.

Sean, that's what I was thinking, too.

Cord 11-25-2003 10:15 AM

And the coast guard actually was ok with this?

Airpacker 11-25-2003 10:46 AM

Thats just plain stupid IMHO. With the way they cut the corners so close these days,thats an invitation to disaster.

open87 11-25-2003 11:01 AM


Originally posted by Sean
you definitely don't want to stab that pin like Billy Mauff did last year :) :)
YOU AIN'T KIDDEN:eek: :eek: :eek:

bschoe 11-25-2003 11:11 AM

Cord,

That was my first question. I'd like to know the name of the PATCOM and who signed off on the Marine Event Permit.

That would be completely unacceptable in my review of a Boat Race Marine Event Permit.

Brad

Tim G. 11-25-2003 11:39 AM

I was thinkin' the same thing when I saw that this weekend. Those buoys aren't rubber ya know...:crazy:

CigDaze 11-25-2003 11:43 AM

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Ask this guy what happens when you hit a buoy?

Caincando1 11-25-2003 12:06 PM

That ain't right!!!

CigDaze 11-25-2003 12:10 PM

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It can happen...

Anyone ever see a pillow disappear in rough seas?

VinMan 11-25-2003 12:16 PM

That bouys probably right in plain view from the C.G. base there.

Go figure:confused:

Formula Outlaw 11-25-2003 05:06 PM

Talk about "Flirting With Disaster".

GO4BROKE 11-25-2003 06:55 PM


Originally posted by VinMan
That bouys probably right in plain view from the C.G. base there.

Go figure:confused:

I would call that selective enforcement. Its illegal to attach anything to an ATON.

Strip Poker 388 11-25-2003 11:59 PM

Almost like a sub mine

CigDaze 11-27-2003 02:42 PM


Originally posted by Formula Outlaw
Talk about "Flirting With Disaster".
You got that right! :eek:

THRILLSEEKER 11-27-2003 03:00 PM


you definitely don't want to stab that pin like Billy Mauff did last year

Man, ya beat me to it:crazy:

CAP071 11-27-2003 07:46 PM

Hey atleast they stopped it the first day, due to 2 turtles swimming through the waters.

and on day 2 they missed a Manatee swimming through.

I think there were more Key West police boats, Coast Guard boats. aux CG boats, Harbor patrol boats, some kind of Florida State police. Naked women on safety patrol boats, so there should have been a law enforcement boat race also.

Allan4 11-27-2003 09:58 PM

That might be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Nick, I almost don't believe you.

I'm speechless.....:( :( :(

Audiofn 11-27-2003 10:18 PM


Originally posted by GO4BROKE
I would call that selective enforcement. Its illegal to attach anything to an ATON.
That is my secong thought

My first thought is THAT IS STUPID!!!!!

Jon

Jolley 11-27-2003 10:40 PM

I guess it was wrong to a degree as far as maritime laws go/ but, it was a very clear 180 degree corner, so to cut inside just wouldn't' help carry speed thru both 1-2 corners..nobody was close to the can .... It really was a good race to see, all bullsh!t aside.......... I'll go again. Wait till the video comes out to piss all over it............ Happy T'Giving:)

Allan4 11-27-2003 10:48 PM

Yeah, but would you want to race around that thing? We ran a race this year and if that marker had been on the turn I would have hit it after having to take evasive action from another boats poor judgement.

Bottom line....you don't put the turns of a race course 4 feet from metal channel markers. That makes zero sense. Bush league IMHO. Sorry, I am strongly against this. You don't ADD dangerous obstacles and factors to a race course, you do what you can to remove them. Someone has it backwards. Poll the racers...they'll tell you what they think. Does NASCAR put fire hydrants just below the yellow line in turn 4 at Talledega? Racing is dangerous enough without made made objects increasing the risk. My .02.

Kent Perroux 11-28-2003 07:35 AM

Ow!

I doubt there would be anyone wanting to cut close to THAT marker; but has anyone ever had their boat cut just a bit quicker than expected throught the turn?

bouyhunter 11-28-2003 08:17 AM

I thumped a bouy once, (hence my name...) Just rubbed it in the night - didn't even see it, tore the hell outta the boat.
I couldn't imagine trying to race around that thing. You are in a competitive mindset, with several other drivers doing the same. That could have been a mess if anyone tried to cut too sharp, or had to take action to get out of the way of another vessel.
SCARY!!

OffshoreOnly 11-28-2003 08:24 AM

That is really the only option that you have for placement of that buoy in the harbor. Same course as it has always been. Now, one question. Is that buoy attached to the green marker? If so, looks like it shifted with the wind.

bschoe 11-28-2003 08:48 AM

If the harbor geography does not allow for alternate routes the buoy should have been removed. A temporary restricted area is established for the race; therefore no other vessels would transit the area and rely on the aid as they would otherwise. In the past buoys have been moved and will be moved in the future to provide safe race venues.

I have reviewed, approved, and returned for revision Marine Event Permits for powerboat races and if no other turn location or course route could be established we would have temporarily disestablished the aid until the time on restricted area expired at which the buoy would have been returned to is assigned position (AP).

Brad


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