The first line on the website:

The Apache Offshore Powerboat Company was born to satisfy the demands of the true high performance enthusiast who demands the best their money can buy and wants their boat delivered on time, no excuses and without problems.

On time?

Good one!! :cool:

So from what I gather so far is that there will be a 36 with used motors and just the plug for the 41?

WTF!:confused:

Yes I can. But after rolling all of those R`s at the end, my mouth kind of tickles.:D

Salesmanship,

So will the new 43 cat be there ?

;)

WELL???

what happened to Steve1?
havent seen him post for awhile.
he would know.

;) :) :D

That poor 47'. You have to be joking.:confused:

YES, JOKING.

Would this be Mitcher T's newest creation?????

He might be kinda busy right now.

Is this the one?

I think you will see one at the show.47 sporty:cool:

I sure hope they have new T shirts at the show.

The mysterious APACHECHIEF from somewhere in south Florida speaks again. I`m guessing that he is an embedded OSO spy at the Apache factory.

my guess , its someone with more then one screen name.......................from the midwest.

:D:D:D:D

As we all know, I was the last person to order a new Apache While Bob Saccenti was still involved. Bob & Eric built me a 2004 36 Warrior. Halfway through the process Mr Allen purchased the company. Upon the news of Bobby's departure I canceled my order. I have heard from very Reliable sources on numerous occasions the hull that I was supposed to get now has 2 of Thad's used & abused 575's from his old, previously wrecked 47 Fountain. I also ordered a stepped bottom 36. When the Steps didn't work, The guys at Apache patched them up & the boat is now a straight hull. This is the second boat that was built with steps that Thad's crew closed up from what I've heard with metal plates covered in Fiberglass. Neither of these boats will run right. The other boat was the 36 warrior in last years Miami show, which I believe That had to buy back from a Gentleman in New Jersey.

I do not wish to hurt the guys @ Apache, but I don't want to see anyone get taken advantage of @ the upcoming show.

fred

It's NOT Apache as anymore!!!!! Get over it!!!! Apache is DEAD! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:D :D :D

Thats a shame...It was a nice boat.

:p

Some deluded ramblings by Scalp:

As we all know, I was the last person to order a new Apache While Bob Saccenti was still involved. Bob & Eric built me a 2004 36 Warrior. Halfway through the process Mr Allen purchased the company. Upon the news of Bobby's departure I canceled my order.

:Not True!! The Boat had serious Issues with the step design and it was decided to not sell it ..That was an internal decision LONG before Bob left..

And Thad personally returned the Money..



I have heard from very Reliable sources on numerous occasions the hull that I was supposed to get now has 2 of Thad's used & abused 575's
from his old, previously wrecked 47 Fountain. I also ordered a stepped bottom 36. When the Steps didn't work,
The guys at Apache patched them up & the boat is now a straight hull. This is the second boat that was built with steps that Thad's crew closed up from what I've heard with metal plates covered in Fiberglass.

:WRONG WRONG again It was Bobs crew who since have been Dismissed!!!! Metal plates WTF ??????

Neither of these boats will run right. The other boat was the 36 warrior in last years Miami show, which I believe That had to buy back from a Gentleman in New Jersey.

:Of course not BUT LOOK who built them ??? ROFLMAO

You are a funny guy ever consider the stage..

You see Scalp this Boat is a real sore spot for me as it caused the rift between myself and Apache originally; That being when I wrote a report and had a discussion with Thad on it's overall Quality...

Now be Thankful for the way things did work out; you seem to have a problem with the wrong people here..

Holychit your alive...so will the 41 make the miami show?
And what is it goin to be called?

I look forward to seeing you at the show Steve!!!!

Not to horn in another's thread but to answer the question posed by the honorable sgrady... Yes the 43 cat will be at the show! We'll also have a 50 cat turbine, 36 cat and 43 Vee. Come and see the show!

Yes oh Great Apache God, I am thankful that you returned my deposit. A deposit from an order which was 4 months late. I cancelled long before I knew about the step problem.

You still didn't answer the Question

Are Thads old used Fountain Motors in the new 2004 Apache I was supposed to get?

YES or NO?

:frog:

Scalp and Apachechief,

Is it true that you were getting nervous that your boat WOULD NOT be completed on time (May, when Thad actually purchased the business) and you wanted your money back and Thad was the ONLY person capable of making sure you got your money? At that time I believe Steve1 was not involved and it was Bob’s original Miami crew that filled in the so-called steps. Right? Who designed the steps in the first place??? It wasn't Steve1! After the steps were removed (per Steve1 I believe), didn't I read the boat gained close to 5 MPH at Lake X after doing so?

Where does it say they are using a 36 for the show? Last I heard they “retired" the molds. I was under the impression that Apache (or whoever you wish to refer to them as) will not build the 36 anymore. I don't think they're trying to sell the 36's because they don't meet there standards. With that being said I think Thad decided to throw his 575 Mercs into this boat and use it for his personal use. I don't think you'll see this boat at the show for sale.

For quite awhile now I've been trying to piece together all the events that have that have taken place over the past year or two... While I agree that the new company (Apache) has made PR mistakes, I do believe they are dedicated to building the best boats they possibly can using the best construction techniques and materials available. With that being said, under these directives, I think they realized that the 36's were not built to these standards.

I'm not trying get anyone wound up, but I do believe these guys are trying to make a top notch product and if it takes time to do it, so be it. I'm not in the market for one of these boats (nor do I think I could afford a new one:crazy: ), but I can tell you one thing... If I was, I would certainly give these guys a hard look because they're using nothing but the best materials, construction techniques, and they've taken a proven hull design and made it even better by retooling using CAD/CNC. Plus, you KNOW they have no choice but to make a perfect product since everybody is looking to shoot them down! And it doesn't hurt that they have plenty of financial backing with Thad involved (like him or not). I think it's only fair to let them introduce their 41 and evaluate it/them after it hits the water. I know Steve1 has taken a lot of chit about taking so long to produce said boat, but we have to keep in mind that when Thad came in he told him to start with a fresh sheet of paper and make nothing but the best. Remember Steve only has a few guys building this boat and if it takes until June to get it right, so be it. I have little doubt that what floats out of his shop will be top notch.

Okay, I have my armor on now... start throwing!:D

LMAO!:p

So the 36 is good enough for Thad to run around in for personal use;) I always loved the Saccenti 36's:cool:

I don`t think that I would have canibalized a running 47 Fountain for it`s engines. Reggie can`t be happy about that!

Since you are always drooling over the larger boats... You should talk to those guys, I'm sure they would be willing to cut you a great deal on it... with your power! I doubt that it will have their name on it, but that would work out great for both of you!

:D ;)

ok answer this one
 

what kind of boat do you have SS?:confused:

Re: ok answer this one
 

I have a couple boats. I have a little jetboat that I use for traveling with and a med. size cat (w/ OB's) that I use for offshore use. BUT, this isn't about what kind of boat I have.

I'm sure you're looking for something to formulate an attack with, but the fact is I love all of the larger Apache's. I don't think I'd buy one unless the money was right, but I do love these boats. I have NO association with the new Apache Co. I just think they have the foundation to potentially build some nice boats. Their PR practices leave something to be desired(:rolleyes: ), but can you blame them for being defensive since they're constantly under attack? I'm sure any one of us would be. I realize they may have fired the first shot and they likely put themselves in this PR predicimate. Either way, I just think too many on this board are quick to judge an unseen product, it may very well be an industry standard when finished. I don't know that, nor does anyone else on this board know that it will or won't be. I'll wait to see the finished product and decide for myself. Being an engineer, what I do know is the materials and technology going into this new boat are superior to the old boats (from an engineering standpoint), what they do with this will determine there fate. From what I've seen so far, I think Steve1 is doing a good job... but let's all wait and see what comes out of the shop before we decide it's a POS just because BS wasn't working on it.:cool: ;)

Just my 2 cents.

and there are Weapons of Mass Destruction somewhere in a backyard in Bagdad. :crazy: