Apache twin step hulls
 

How were they built? How do they ride?

for sale in the classifieds

What's the best way to clean the cushions in my SeaRay cuddycabin?

this boat is owned by a guy who just finished up a subcontract for me this week. i've seen it up on lake travis.

How do you clean non skid? BH

From what was written in previous posts...

The steps didn't work. They "sucked" the water rather than making the hull more efficient.

With your tongue.

On a real 28' offshore boat or a Joker?

Thank You Sir.

STAY AWAY

From what I understand the 36 Warrior shown above was one of the very few 36 Warriors with steps that were made. There were others built with steps in different places that did not work as well.

As per BS, and the current owner, the boat does about 83mph. This I believe is the same speed a Top Gun T/S does with the same HP500 power.

Also keep in mind this boat was a generator, and an A/C unit.

A 36 Warrior set up the same way without steps will do about 72-73 MPH.

A 38 Gun non step with 500's does in the 71-73 MPH range.

I would contact Bobby before buying any Apache he hs built or worked on. He always has been more than happy to help.


APACHE THREAD DISCLAIMER:

THE ABOVE POST IS MY OPINION. IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU SHOULD DRINK DIRTY BILGE WATER.

The 36 twin step you have posted was fine and picked up 11 MPH when tested at Lake X. The stepped 36 cigracer38 is talking about was never sold and the steps did cause a suction. The stepped 36 was great but a dispute caused the rights to the step 36 to go away and not return.

When I ran one I was impressed. I also seen it take a 2nd in the Key west Worlds in 2000. So I do not think it was an issue.

Read above for the "Scalp" disclaimer.

Couple of further points on the Twin Step listed here. It is a reverse Chin design, very similar to the cig set up, but a little more forgiving. The boat is lighter and faster than the original design.

I think there were only 3 made, you would have to ask Bobby on that, but I can only remember 3. The changes were inserted into the mold, but the insert went away during that time period.

I just wanted to make sure we did not confuse the two designs and degrade a fellow OSO'er who is trying to sell his boat. This boat is rare and performs very well.

If you have more questions call Bobby himself or myself I can try to answer some of the issues, although the Chief would know everything needed since he raced one.

Scott

I wish they still made the design that worked. The 36 was a killer boat.

It's not this one is it? If not...what ever happened with that one??

hi-perf-2000...
THANK YOU. I KNEW that boat was familiar. I do not think it could be a different boat; too close in details. There are more pics of that 'parked' boat here on OSO.

Found it.

If it were not for the steps, he probably could have backed out... given how awesome Apaches are.

"Down by the crik; walkin' on water."

:D :D :D :D

Thought that was the boat. What kind of damage was done when it decided to investigate the grassy knole??

.....And by the looks of the photo, he damn near made it!:D

LOLOLOLOL :D :D

I think I read that this was the "John Deer Edition"

I think someone once said he had the new Imco 4x4 Drives on there. :D

Bobby can confirm this, most of it is first hand fact. I filled in the blans with what I remember. The boats discussed below were the one in the picture above and three others. They were 1999 and 2000's.

New Tech was a Company that a guy from the Bahamas was the money man for with Bobby. There was an insert placed in the mold that was designed by a European Engineer. I know for a fact that there were three 36's with the step as I personally sold all three of them several years ago. One went to the Bahamas, one was sold to the Feds as a drug chaser boat, and the third went the Great Lakes Area.

At the time I remember that there was a triple 41 with diesels but am not sure if it was stepped or not.

When New-Tech dissolved the insert was not allowed to be used anymore by Apache (or whatever you want to call it)

Somewhere in my files I have a write up on what I believe I remember to be a fourth or fifth 36 that had Bobby Driving it.

The Bahamanian one won the Bahamian race in 2002. It was a 36 with 500 hp's and ran 82mph. Since then the boat has been re-powered by TNT with Chief Engines and is running close to 100.

If i were going to spend 160k on it, i would want to see those pictures first rather than after, that had to hurt.:eek:

The 42/43 had steps with Yanmars and is for sale now, I think in Europe. Welcome to OSO.

Here is the Sister Ship race F2 with Bobby and Carl.

That thing gets deeper into enemy territory than an Apache helicoptor. Probably thought Bin Laden was held up in the tall grass there. We'll get that bastard yet.

I think it was trying to make it to Too Old's place like those land crossing Cat Fish......... LOL.......... Back to the safety of the trailer and solid ground.... Sorry Fred I had to!!!!!!!!:p :D