Yet. :D

Forumlas quality is hard to beat and the primary reason the Fountain is faster is because it's smaller and lighter. My 357 Formula is as big if not bigger than a 38' Fountain. Had Formulas in the fmaily for 21 years so i'm biased. But, i can certainly attest to Formula's quality, reliability, comfort and support. But, if you just want to go fast and aren't going to use the cabin much then Fountain is for you.

another question about engines, 502, 500, or 525. being that the 502 block is discontinued. how reliable are they. is larger better, faster, cost conscious.

Nato

Both are great boats, Don't worry about company stability, both have been around for a while and are well established.

As for the two boats the formula is going to ride better, but will be slower. Depends on what you want?

As for motors, I have the 500efi and love it, however if I was going to buy a new boat I would go with the 525efi, I really like the closed cooling on them.

WILL;)

I like the 500efi or the new 496ho mag.

in the fountains how much space is lost in the nose, is it significant

You will lose about 1 .1/2 feet plus the platform.
The 28 powerplay is bigger then a 29 Fountain.
Lets talk Dave .Plus I have a 25 outlaw too for sale .
770-827-7612

are the 28' pantera boats very good, i know it is a small company and they have made just over 500 boats since '76. everything is custom right?

Yes they are custom boats, each one is ordered. For some reason I like the small boat manufactors, I think that if you do your research you will find that it is the small things that count. Quality control is much better because the owner is most of the time one of the builders. They are kind of putting there name on it, and it only take a few bad ones and your ruined in this industry. It is also kind of nice to not see 10 other boats like yoours in one day on the water. If I had to choose between these three I would serious look at Pantera.

In that size go with the 28 Joker. Best boat made in that size range with speed of a 21 and performance of a 36