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CAP071 02-10-2004 04:21 PM

Dumb sellers
 
Why is it people put their boats up for sale, with either NO Pictures available, or they say OH I 'll send them to you and never do? I been waiting on this guy for 2 weeks now. He keeps telling me he is sending me pics and never does:mad:

David 02-10-2004 04:29 PM

Maybe he doesn't really want to sell it?

CAP071 02-10-2004 04:31 PM

It's not just Him. I been waiting on 2 dealers to get back to me with Photo's also. I think the long distance thing scares them away

C_Spray 02-11-2004 07:01 AM

Move on. They probably treated the boat the same way - "Oh, I'll do that later..."

dkwestern 02-11-2004 07:46 AM

I'm with C-spray. They don't care much about it.

RebarBox 02-11-2004 07:53 AM

Re: Dumb sellers
 

Originally posted by CAP071
Why is it people put their boats up for sale, with either NO Pictures available, or they say OH I 'll send them to you and never do? I been waiting on this guy for 2 weeks now. He keeps telling me he is sending me pics and never does:mad:



I'll sell you my boat..........and have a stipper personally deliver pics if you like. :D:D

Dave M 02-11-2004 07:58 AM

I agree, get some pictures. Another thing I hate is the price game. Call for price, no price, best offer, etc.

jb 02-11-2004 08:00 AM

maybe they dont think you are serious...

I hear ya on this, If I inquire at this point in my life...I am interested somehow to purchase. I dont always act ecxcited which may be a turn off....But I remember when I was selling my Scarab, I had a file of pics to email, a description in a word Doc, so it took a whole click of the reply button and attachment of pics/doc... I made it easy for myself to get the info to whomever inquired...didnt care who, because it was no effort.

No price gets me the most...to me that means they are awful proud of their boats and there is no good deal to be had here! They want to bury you like they are buried

BajaFresh 02-11-2004 09:36 AM


Originally posted by jb


No price gets me the most...


I hate the ads that have no price but then say "serious inquiries only" !

How are you going to be serious if you don't know what they are asking? :eek: :mad: :rolleyes:

jb 02-11-2004 09:53 AM

but "call for price" is always good!!!!

never got that...

yeah yeah, they want you to call so they can get you on the phone

CAP071 02-13-2004 07:29 PM

Yea you call them and you get some desperate guy who wants to chat about boating all F-ing night n rack up your long distance bill. :D

Reed Jensen 02-13-2004 07:45 PM

I love it... I call them "strokers" .. people call about a boat or car you have for sale... take up hours of your time... want test rides... blah blah blah.... then you never hear from them again... When I was selling my boat... I had one clown call me and say " Meet me at the launch ramp at Marina Del Rey and lets spend the day out on the water... I've got to bring my "wife" along 'cause she has to approve of it too.. and if it is what you say it is... I'll think about buying it".I said sure.... when we meet at the ramp... I want $1,000.00 dollars for a deposit... because it will cost $400.00 for the gas... and I'll have to spend the next day cleaning it up again... and if you buy the boat... I'll give you the money back.... gee... never heard from the guy again... I wonder why?

Reed Jensen 02-13-2004 07:52 PM

Oh... I'm sorry... I guess this thread was about sellers.. not buyers... :p

impulsive 02-13-2004 08:04 PM

The thing I hate the most is no price. For some reason they think people who have a budget will call and get the price that's 30k more than they can spend and say,, I'll take it. I don't understand, LIST THE F#$KING PRICE!!!!! It absolutely drives me crazy!! Or ya get the jackass that posts just one picture from 50 feet away at night. I never understand it, your trying to sell something,,, make it easy for the buyer to decide if this boat is for them. When I have sold something I always tell people what is wrong with it. When your buying a used boat there are going to be some minor things wrong,ie. sun pad, minor scratches, etc. JUST ****ING TELL ME BEFORE I DRIVE 14 HOURS TO SEE IT. Bottom line, just be honest with the price, the condition , and for god sakes post some good pics.

Reed Jensen 02-13-2004 08:24 PM

I know what you mean Impulsive... I've been through the same thing... only I flew from LAX to JFK and then drove 5 hours to find out something was misrepresented. You want to strangle someone by the time you are done. I've got to tell you though... I've made the mistake of helping some "technically challenged" friends... ( no computer).. by posting their stuff for them on the internet.. and it is amazing how often you can describe the stuff in detail.. show very clear pictures.. and yet you get calls from people asking the stupidest questions... " what color is it?"... " What color does it look like in the picture... what color is described in the ad? It's white you moron! " And then you send off fifteen or twenty more pictures... and never hear from them again... Then the worst happens.... you start getting calls from the " Would you like to donate your boat to charity" a**holes... I must have gotten twice as many calls of people wanting the boat for free ... as I did from people that were seriously looking for a boat. Want some more entertaining stories??? I live in Glendale... there is only one place on the face of the earth that has more Armenians than Glendale... and that is Armenia... They would drive by my place and see the boat .... ask in broken english... "That boat... that boat... is that boat for sale???... " Why yes it is!"... How much... how much for that boat.... I'd reply I'm into it over One hundred thousand... but I'd take Eighty thousand.... " Oh no... I buy boats like that all day long for four... five thousand dollars... I give you five thousand dollars for it.... This happened lots of times too... F---ing flying carpet salesmen... They think they can bull**** you .... comes with the territory.

CAP071 02-13-2004 08:46 PM

How is it a guy who works around boats all day can claim a boat is a 10 when it is really a -2? :D I feel that if a boat is mis represented that bad I should be able to sue him for my plane tix cost! bastards! :mad:

impulsive 02-13-2004 09:10 PM


Originally posted by CAP071
How is it a guy who works around boats all day can claim a boat is a 10 when it is really a -2? :D I feel that if a boat is mis represented that bad I should be able to sue him for my plane tix cost! bastards! :mad:
I could not agree more. I got a guy interested in my boat from Kentucky. I have sent him over 50 pics and I am going to take a video of the boat and overnite it to him. If he drives all the way to boston he wants to leave with the boat and I don't want any surprises when he gets here.

CAP071 02-13-2004 09:12 PM

I just want a ( Really cold ) Beer when I get to your place impulsive! :D

Audiofn 02-13-2004 09:16 PM

Ok and I will even buy it :D:D

CAP071 02-13-2004 09:18 PM

I'm headed up there eventualy just to do a weekend trip and drink some cold 1's :D

impulsive 02-13-2004 09:18 PM

hhmmmmm..... I think that can be arranged:D

Reed Jensen 02-13-2004 09:20 PM


Originally posted by CAP071
How is it a guy who works around boats all day can claim a boat is a 10 when it is really a -2? :D I feel that if a boat is mis represented that bad I should be able to sue him for my plane tix cost! bastards! :mad:
mmm.... I think it is called a "Bold face lie!"... we've all gone through little misrepresentations.. but when someone says it's a 10 and it's really a POS... yeah... they should have to reimburse you for your expenses... only problem is... even if you sue them in small claims court... if you want it done quickly.. you have to do it in their jurisdiction... get the judgment there... under law... if they made the misrepresentation to you over the phone.. you should be able to sue them in YOUR backyard,, and not theirs... but good luck getting them to even show up and address the claim... even better luck trying to collect. And for god sake.... Be careful doing business in Texas... if you aren't "one of the good 'ol boys" you are really boned... If you enter into a contract with an out of state party... for god's sake... list in the contract that the all laws and terms of the contract pertain to the laws of the state that you reside in... You will find that snakes from other states will word into the contract that all terms are pursuant to the laws of their state... that way if you have to sue them... you have to do it on their turf... and have to hire an attorney that practices in their state... I've leaned this the hard way...

impulsive 02-13-2004 09:26 PM

come up this summer, we can get all the boats together for a run!:D

CAP071 02-13-2004 09:36 PM

HELL! I've even had 100% new boats not be a 10+. So now I'm scared when a guy says his used older boat is a perfect 10! :rolleyes:

CAP071 02-21-2004 06:02 PM

PARTY AT impulsive's house we can get at least 100 boats plus from here to show up

:D


PARTY IMPULSIVE 2004 :drool:

L8Shift 02-22-2004 09:36 AM


Originally posted by Reed Jensen
I'll think about buying it".I said sure.... when we meet at the ramp... I want $1,000.00 dollars for a deposit... because it will cost $400.00 for the gas... and I'll have to spend the next day cleaning it up again... and if you buy the boat... I'll give you the money back.... gee... never heard from the guy again... I wonder why?
This sounds like a fair idea ... it separates the lookers from the "real buyers"... REAL buyers have an idea of the expenses incurred... CASH ONLY too!

CAP071 02-22-2004 09:40 AM

Hell I sold my boat to a guy on here. I met him on the highway at a truck stop 2 hours from my house and gave him the boat. Yes he did test drive the boat and all a week prior. But I figured he bought it with NO BS. So I wanted to save him from driving the whole trip from Va to Philly.

CAP071 02-22-2004 09:41 AM

I requested info on 8 boats on boattrader. com only 1 responded so far from 3 weeks ago. Do they really want to sell their boats ?:confused:

mlitefan 02-22-2004 12:26 PM

The guy I purchased my boat from had pics out to me in a flash...;)

CAP071 02-22-2004 12:27 PM

See now there is a guy you can count on :D

mlitefan 02-22-2004 12:30 PM

:D

Good luck on the search bud. Anything in particular you are looking at?

I went to the Richmond boat show yesterday. This has to be the worst boat show in the country...unless you are looking for pontoon or fishing boats.

One 35 Fountain...I Baja 25 Outlaw, 272 and Baja H2X.

I can't believe I allowed myself to go again.

CAP071 02-22-2004 12:34 PM

Just looking right now. Hey Philly doesn't even have a boat show anymore. :rolleyes:

cigarette1 02-22-2004 12:37 PM

I bought my latest boat from 3000 miles away without ever seeing it in person ... I did my homework ... got pics ... asked plenty of questions ... and worked through a respected dealer/broker, Phil at Lip-ship Performance. I may have paid a small premium for using a broker but it has paid for itself many times over through customer service, assistance with the financing headache and taking care of the little things that were not quite right.

I also bought a Cafe Racer from 3000 miles away from a private party. Again, with a lot of homework, picture and conversations, I felt comfortable flying to do a final sea trial. The seller was a Cigarette enthusiast and took really good care of me for the day I was there. I closed the deal right then and there.

There are many ways to buy a used boat and just as many ways to get screwed. Every situation is not going to work the way you think it should. The private party world is not to be taken lightly, protect yourself with as much research as possible and don't start crying when things aren't as expected.

As far as selling nightmares ... I've been there too


G

mlitefan 02-22-2004 12:38 PM

One of these days I am going to go to a real boat show. Maybe I can swing Miami next year.

Good luck on the search...

CAP071 02-22-2004 12:39 PM

I'm gonna do my best to See Miami next year

cigarette1 02-22-2004 12:56 PM


Originally posted by Baja Fresh
I hate the ads that have no price but then say "serious inquiries only" !

How are you going to be serious if you don't know what they are asking? :eek: :mad: :rolleyes:

If you are a serious buyer, it doesn't matter. You should already know the market value ... you are not going to pay more because the seller list it for more than you think it's worth. If the seller is serious, he'll sell it for a reasonable offer. It may be the boat of your dreams that you passed because the seller didn't list a price.

I think all the hate comes from shoppers who have no boat in particular that they are looking for. With the price listed, you get all the calls, but you have to educate the buyer about the boat for them to learn that boat is not really for them.

I consider a serious buyer, one who already knows what model boat they are going to buy. If a seller only wants to work with that kind of buyer, that's his choice. If a seller want to list a price and entertain all potential buyers, figuring he can convince the buyer that his is the boat for them, that's their choice.

G

cigarette1 02-22-2004 01:12 PM

Come on .... I know someone is out there ready to blast my post out the water :D

G

lucky strike 02-22-2004 01:23 PM

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Reed Jensen 02-22-2004 06:13 PM


Originally posted by cigarette1
If you are a serious buyer, it doesn't matter. You should already know the market value ... you are not going to pay more because the seller list it for more than you think it's worth. If the seller is serious, he'll sell it for a reasonable offer. It may be the boat of your dreams that you passed because the seller didn't list a price.

I think all the hate comes from shoppers who have no boat in particular that they are looking for. With the price listed, you get all the calls, but you have to educate the buyer about the boat for them to learn that boat is not really for them.

I consider a serious buyer, one who already knows what model boat they are going to buy. If a seller only wants to work with that kind of buyer, that's his choice. If a seller want to list a price and entertain all potential buyers, figuring he can convince the buyer that his is the boat for them, that's their choice.

G

It doesn't matter anyway if you list the price... post pictures.... give a detailed description of the boat... you will always get the morons that ask the same questions... how much... what color is it... even if it is stated in the ad.... too much...

CFD5 02-22-2004 06:34 PM

Hey CAPO71, I think your e-mail might be screwed up. Might be that these guys are trying to e-mail but your not getting them. When you e-mailed me I replied within a couple hours but you never recieved them. I have had several e-mails from people about my boat and they all recieved my reply with no problem. Not trying to defend them, Just don't see how someone would spend the money for an add and not want to sell. Or maybe my computer sucks, I'm no computer wizard. :p


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