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BROWNIE 03-18-2004 08:55 AM

I wish I had a dang picture of that boat. I'll try to find one. Anyway, when we built it, it was a narrow (6') tunnel catamaran with 8' wide sponsons, or side hulls. This was before the days of ASD's and such, so we built the aforementioned converging shaft surface prop system, with the struts and rudders sticking down from the "back porch" which was 8' long (fore and aft), and about 3" above the water at rest.

The first time that we ran the boat, we we sorely dismayed, when it ran 36 mph instead of 56 mph. I blamed it on that sonofa***** in Italy who hadn't sent the right props. Well, it wasn't his fault. Sonny Levi went for a ride with us, and pointed out that the back porch wasn't clearing the water, and was creating a suction which was causing the water to turn up to the back porch behind the transom, and travel along with the boat. This means that the props has to accellerate the water from 0 relative mph, to boat speed (impossible to do).

No problem, I said. Since the back porch was free of the water at rest, we got back there and drilled two 6" holes, through the porch, over the "down" side of the propellers. We welded a short 6" tube to the hole, and put a piece of heavy steam hose, 6" ID over the tube and up about 3'. Next test, it sucked the steam hose shut! You couldn't flatten that hose with a truck!. No problem, I said (again). I made an "X" out of 3/4" plywood, the length of the hose. Next test, it sucked the steam hose flat in the shape of a cross.

Sonny estimated that we had a partial pressure (vacuum) of 1/2 an atmosphere, 7.5 psi give or take, times 8' long x 22' wide, or something like 50 tons of vacuum!

We bit the bullet and hauled the boat ($2500 a pop, each way) and made the bottom of the porch v-shaped, to clear the sides for air. Next test, 56 mph! I guess you learn something new every day!

cougarman 03-18-2004 09:03 AM

T2X
 
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I think you are talking about Lou Cooper's Michigan built Maverick hull , built by Steve Baum..... a charming, if humorless, ghoul who ruled offshore with an iron glan...er... hand.

T2x

T2X,
Can you go into some more history on both the
boat and your colorful discription Steve Baum, and
crew etc. ?

Great Stuff keep it coming please. :D :D

Cougarman

Lee 03-18-2004 09:08 AM

Re: Re: 38' V- Bottom
 

Originally posted by T2x
I think you are talking about Lou Cooper's Michigan built Maverick hull , built by Steve Baum..... a charming, if humorless, ghoul who ruled offshore with an iron glan...er... hand.

T2x

That 32' Maverick (Breakout) is still around, I have some pictures that I will post later today.

Lee 03-18-2004 06:34 PM

Re: Re: 38' V- Bottom
 
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Originally posted by T2x
I think you are talking about Lou Cooper's Michigan built Maverick hull , built by Steve Baum..... a charming, if humorless, ghoul who ruled offshore with an iron glan...er... hand.

T2x

T2X, Lew Cooper owned Miss Gallo Wine

Cougarman, Break-Out was driven and owned by Al Gerstenberger and throttled by Bob Lisch/Kirk Strehler/Steve Fussel. George Handyside was the navigator and Doug Schultz was the crew chief. They were very sucessfull in "C" class
Powered by 373" stagger small blocks w/#3 drives.

32storm 03-18-2004 06:56 PM

Whatever happened to the '88 39 ft Cougar cat with twin Lambo V-12's that was for sale last year? It as owned by Nuri Sabuncu of Rochester. Ran under "Chairman of the Board" and "Turkish Express". Boat won in Key West in '89 and ran most major events, including some in europe.

T2x 03-19-2004 08:29 AM

Re: Re: Re: 38' V- Bottom
 

Originally posted by Lee
T2X, Lew Cooper owned Miss Gallo Wine

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If memory serves Lou Cooper named the Maverick Miss Gallo Wine after the boat was called Hustler...... This is a long time back....and somehow Red Crain was involved in one way or another.

T2x

T2x 03-19-2004 08:31 AM


Originally posted by 32storm
Whatever happened to the '88 39 ft Cougar cat with twin Lambo V-12's that was for sale last year?
I saw it about 6 months ago outside of Nuri's building in Rochester.....near the airport........fully exposed to the elements in a town that has nasty winters.


T2x

stinger312 03-20-2004 10:34 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: 38' V- Bottom
 

Originally posted by T2x
If memory serves Lou Cooper named the Maverick Miss Gallo Wine after the boat was called Hustler...... This is a long time back....and somehow Red Crain was involved in one way or another.

T2x

Back in 80's when the boat was called the Hustler I think it was owned and raced by Casey Cnossen.

littlenige 07-28-2006 10:34 AM

Re: Cougar England/Brownie
 
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Time to crank this thread up again!

This was a beauty. A wave cruncher with lamborghini power. Are these hulls on a par with the Apache hulls when it comes to strength and rough water capability?

Stormrider 07-28-2006 10:58 AM

Re: Cougar England/Brownie
 
Is that coming up on plane??? dont see any big water there.
And i love the 38s!!!


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