Re: 38' V- Bottom
Originally Posted by stinger312
Back in 80's when the boat was called the Hustler I think it was owned and raced by Casey Cnossen.
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by Stormrider
Is that coming up on plane??? dont see any big water there.
And i love the 38s!!! Too Cool |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by littlenige
Time to crank this thread up again!
This was a beauty. A wave cruncher with lamborghini power. Are these hulls on a par with the Apache hulls when it comes to strength and rough water capability? |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by 818181
I was on a sportfish in 1980's & saw Bob Idoni & Michelle Maynard stuff & TOTALLY destroy a state of the art, real lite Cougar Cat, made of wood. Boat was running about 90-100 at the time, never knew what happened, anybody know! DB.
Fayva Video
Originally Posted by DyD
Any more photo's of this "Breathless" 46'
It was re engined with tripple 930hp C&G's and renamed 'Lethal Menace'. |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by littlenige
Are these hulls on a par with the Apache hulls when it comes to strength and rough water capability?
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Originally Posted by DyD
Any more photo's of this "Breathless" 46'
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by T2x
Here's 4 Champ Boat motors (circle race tunnel engines) on one of our Conquest Cats. The 2 cycle projects back then were neat...... to say the least.
T2x |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Browie,
The race was the "Harbortown" 200. Sponsored by Harbortown Marina to sell condo dock spaces... Jay Buscigleo was the Race Chairman... Where is he these days? |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by littlenige
Can't find any more right now, but this was the livery of the boat after Englishman Richard Carr (1 time class 1 racer) bought it. As Leviathan says, by this time the boat had been re-rigged with triple 930's. A bit hairy by all accounts! Engine bay had to be seen to be believed. Shall try and find that picture also!
'Lethal Magic' is currently getting a gas turbine upgrade. |
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Who´s doing the conversion? Does Colin Stoneman still own the boat?? Sounds interesting!
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Dunno to be honest, Mark Pascoe told me the other day that he'd had a call about, and that it was getting the gas turbine treament.
Last time I saw it was in Colin Stoneman's yard,, looking very sorry for itself :( |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
I looked at an old Cig 35 south of Philly several years back. Probably '01. The seller had an old 38' aluminum cat- ex race boat, blue w/Arnesons on it. He was pretty far along installing turbines in it. Used an old outboard for reverse- it was in a hole in the rear between the engines. IIRC, I believe the seller owned golf courses.
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Chris I did the converison on that blue boat. It was the an old seahawk race boat. I will try and post some pic when I can. We stretched the hull 2 feet and installed GE T58 turbines with a 70hp jet outboard
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Hey Brownie:
Darren and I ran into Stevie Curtis over the weekend. He looks great and just received the M.B.E. (Member of the British Empire). He hasn't lost a beat...and he throttled Reliable to a strong win in Super Cat on Sunday..... It wasn't a Cougar.......but it was a cat. T2x |
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Steve is one of my favorite people. I'm glad Liz and Charlie recognized his accomplishments.
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by BROWNIE
Steve is one of my favorite people. I'm glad Liz and Charlie recognized his accomplishments.
Then they talked "technical stuff"......... :D Time goes by..... and by ......and by. T2x |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Jon its lethal menace that's getting the turbine treatment along with some serious hull mods and a full re-design of the cockpit.
The hull has had a centre pod fitted along with an ASD8 drop box and BPM stern tube.The drive is on, the engine is in just working on mounts and other time taking bits. I might post a few spy shots soon! Jason |
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Found the article.
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Imagine getting in THAT one sunday morning and waking the neighbours..................
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by 999JAY
Jon its lethal menace that's getting the turbine treatment along with some serious hull mods and a full re-design of the cockpit.
The hull has had a centre pod fitted along with an ASD8 drop box and BPM stern tube.The drive is on, the engine is in just working on mounts and other time taking bits. I might post a few spy shots soon! Jason Jason, When ya posting some Spi pics for us? Cougarman |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by rtaylor
Hold on, rivets may have been a problem back then, but aluminum boats are commonly welded today. Why arent peiople building more aluminum boats for offshore applications. Is it vibration, or what?
And the rivets were not a problem . |
Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by PatriYacht
Id like to know more about these guys. Kaiser is from my old neighborhood.
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Re: Cougar England/Brownie
Originally Posted by BROWNIE
As to the Li'l Fayva Shoes crash, that boat was built for Rocky Aoki, as was the larger Fayva Shoes 38'. Rocky had just effed himself up for the [insert number here] time. Both were treewood. It was built like a hydroplane, and weighed about the same. Clive (James had died of luekemia at this point) made Michel promise never to run the boat in the ocean before he approved the sale to Michel. We installed the very first set of Arneson drives on the little Fayva. In fact, during the installation, I took Howard Arneson for his very first catamaran ride in my Flight Marine fish boat. Anyway, the Li'l Fayva ran 126 mph, when the next fastest open boat was about a hundred. I think the race was still called the "Sam Griffith Memorial" (senior moment) at Fort Lauderdale and it was flatter than a pisspot. Michel decided to run the little boat. I launched it for him at Cougar on 188th, and rang up Clive in England, which swings like a pendulum do... Clive said, and I quote "If you let them run that boat in the lightest ocean swell, the boat will end up in the dumpster (not a shadow cat) and Michel and Bob will be dead!".
Michel said "Fook heem, I am the Champion of the World, and I will do whatever I want!. The mer is as smoooooth as a chambre pot". They had mechanical difficulties, and started dead (?) last. They caught and passed the entire fleet in minutes, and pulled up along side Arneson's Cougar treewood 38' which was leading at that point. In a terrific twist of fate, our cameraman, Brian Kreiske, was over them in a chopper. He was such a good photographer that, during the crash, he never let them out of the frame. Li'l Fayva magically transformed into an acre of orange plywood in 1 unbelievable second Thanks to our cameraman, about a hundred million people got a firsthand look at our engineering capability. They were OK. Michel got pitched a couple of hundred yards. He was on the outside of the arc when the port side collapsed. Bobby Idoni was in the center of the spin, and was still sitting where the seat used to be! Lots of the pieces were tethered together by wires and hoses and such, and I towed the whole mess a couple of miles to the beach. There was still one engine and drive intact. It was at that point that we decided to only build raceboats out of materials with a specific gravity of 1+, so that at least, it would have the courtesy to sink. Here is a small video I made of an old norwegian VHS-cassette I found in my basement. Poor quality, but It refreshes your memories. It's a Westcon Home Video production ... as far as the ownership of the scene, but the firm doesn't exsist anymore, so ...... Anyway its a DivX 6.2.5 codec AVI-file big as 25MB. Enjoy: Save as: FayvaShoes crash in 1981 at Harbour-Town |
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Sorry for the delay been out in Canada for a couple of weeks watching the 1000 island poker run.
Just making mounts to hold the engine/drive is on but needs painting. Due to this being a cat with a single engine and drive it is going to need a centre pod down the tunnel. |
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