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thedonz 04-20-2004 04:23 PM

Apache 33 center console
 
Tried this in Apache forum with no response.

Is anyone familiar with the 33 center console inboard/outboard model? how many made? who made them? performance?

WickedWon 04-20-2004 05:38 PM

I can't wait to get back to TAVERNIER ! Anyway, the 33 x 9' 6" wide beam was the CC actually built by Apache ( Bobby S.). The 33' x 8' was designed and built by Bobby S.( Apache) as an Offshore boat and wasn't configured as a CC until Concept bought the molds. I've personally only seen one of the " wide bodies " and don't know anything about their performance.

JD

thedonz 04-20-2004 06:03 PM

WW

Thanks for the info, I guess the CC is similar in dimensions to my 33 Donzi CC, only Apache made an inboard/outboard model, my Donzi has a pair of 250 EFIs. Is your CC a 33 or 36? I saw it at Concepts one day; it is awesome. Let me know when you will be in Tavernier; I have a place there and try to get there on the weekends. Love to see your boat on the water...how fast is it with those triplets? Is it still at Tavernier Creek marina?

Frank

GregP 04-21-2004 07:41 AM

Bobby built the wide beam model using a hull mold from the cut-down 36 Cig and a new deck/interior mold.

I looked at a couple, both outboards though, and while they had been nice boats both had been seriuously neglected. One was much more project than I had in mind, the other the owner wanted about 3 times what I thought it worth considering the amount or R&R required.

-Greg

Ed 04-21-2004 12:01 PM

Apache 33' Center-Console...
 
We built the 9' 6" beam center-console in 1985-88 in both a sterndrive & outboard(B-Bracket) version. Most of the sterndrive versions went out with 370 TRS packages and did 64 m.p.h. with Hydromotive 4-blades of the day. These props were approximately 3-4 m.p.h. faster than the Mercury Mirage's, at that time. I remember this well, because it was such a great speed improvement. Tony Roma, among others, were owners of this model. I remember Tony's wife wanted lessons on how to operate her new boat, so...Steve Wilson showed her the ropes. I remember Steve coming back & saying that she wanted a little bit more than... just how to operate her new boat! One 33' Center-console we built, with a huge oversize console & non-wind-resistant windscreen, Speedmaster # 3's, & big power...ran well into the 90 m.p.h. range. Most of the outboard models were rigged with twin Johnson or Evinrude 300 h.p. V-8's...Some were V-8's from "Second-Effort" in Lake Hamilton, Fl., which was OMC's Hi-Performance Outlet at the time. Both boat versions ran well. The narrower 8' beam 33' was built as a center-console sterndrive only. There was a sport-deck sterndrive deck as well. We also built ALOT of 22' Apache Scouts, in many, many, versions/powers. Eric Froberg was one of our riggers at the time. Had a great time working with everyone back then. Met a lot of famous people. Hope this helps. Ed

Bob Saccenti 04-21-2004 01:18 PM

33' Apache Open CC
 
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.

I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.

The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds

If I can help let me know

Bobby Saccenti

WickedWon 04-21-2004 02:24 PM

Great Designs Never Go Out Of Style
 
Bobby, isn't it ironic ( to the naysayers) that so much of your old tooling is still producing some of the best performing, baddest in their class boats :cool: Luckily for you both molds are in the hands of people who care about doing it right so the product doesn't shame the design. All right I've got the 41' and a 33' anything else out there I should know about ? It's about time to replace my flats boat :D :D

Jim Deitz

caferacer 04-21-2004 02:28 PM

Hello:
A buddy of mine is restoring 9'6" IO model. It was called the FOX A lot of glass work(soft floor). Will have 500 hp big blocks and bravoones. Graphics just done, should be ready in about six weeks, so no performance numbers. Any info on this boat would be greatly apprecciated

TOM

Sean 04-21-2004 02:43 PM

hey tommy, i was wondering how that boat was doing...i saw it last year when he had it stripped...what an awesome looking boat...great classic lines...i may pop in this weekend...is it still at the shop? r u working on saturday?

buckknekkid 04-21-2004 04:23 PM

Re: 33' Apache Open CC
 

Originally posted by Bob Saccenti
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.

I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.

The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds

If I can help let me know

Bobby Saccenti

heres one of Buckks

buckknekkid 04-21-2004 04:24 PM

:fish: Yanmar 300

Bob Saccenti 04-21-2004 04:29 PM

33' apache CC open boats
 
Wicked Won
Jim, Thank You

I am familiar with both of your boats. A short time ago I was passing in Opa-Locka and seen this new yellow boat outside of Concept with Yamaha’s, I slowed down to have a look, After seeing the name, I knew it was your’s. The boat looked fantastic. I also checked out your thread down to the keys, now that’s what I call enjoying your boat.
Sorry at this time, I can’t help you out with a flats boat.

Caféracer Tom

If I’m not mistaking the 33’x 9.5' is a white CC I/O built in the early eighties for a friend of mine who owned FOX GLASS Inc. in Brooklyn N.Y. if you are putting in a pair of 500 H/P engines look for speeds in the low to mid seventy’s, Please post a picture when it’s done, I would like to see what it looks like after twenty years of service.
Funny, old resin buckets are still going.

Fever Mike

The 33’x8’ Apache / Concept boat was built a few years before the 41.
But I will say this, the plug makers (carpenters) Nick, Curtis and Victor Chapman where on loan to me from Don to do my project in the late seventies, Nick Chapman did most of Don’s prototyping when he owned Cigarette Racing Team.

Bobby Saccenti

thedonz 04-22-2004 08:53 PM

thanks for sharing your knowledge Bobby and Ed.....you guys sure produced one heck of a boat......

Bobby, do you know if the 33 x 9 Donzi hull was also from the Cig 36? The dimensions seem about right and both come from Don....

Eddito 05-05-2011 05:32 PM

33 apache cc
 
please i am looking at one now here on south florida is the one with twin 454 and trs drives i need more information please pm me if possible

Originally Posted by Bob Saccenti (Post 939186)
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.

I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.

The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds

If I can help let me know

Bobby Saccenti


salty dog 07-11-2011 09:43 PM

Hey Eddito, did you ever purchase the apache cc? whats up with it, everyone knows it was on ebay many times? some people say there good others say not so good.

salty dog 07-11-2011 09:47 PM

Hey Eddito did you purchase the apache cc? It was on ebay many times wonder why it never sold.I hear good and bad from those 33s!

salty dog 01-25-2012 08:16 PM

What finally happend to the 33 cc My Prozac from Miami?

buckknekkid 01-20-2017 03:20 PM

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heres one of Buckks

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buckknekkid 01-20-2017 03:20 PM

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Full Force 10-11-2020 06:06 PM

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I saw this for the first time in a while yesterday, I think I recall this being a 33 built by saccenti out of the 36 cig mold, correct?

J-Bonz 10-12-2020 08:17 AM


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