Does anyone know this 33 Daytona?
 

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I was at Havasu this weekend and took a test drive on this 33 Daytona. It has New York registration numbers and tags on it. I am interested in the boat, but would like to talk with the previous owner, or anyone who may have any info on the boat.

According to the sales folks at Eliminator, the previous owner traded the boat in on a new 27 Daytona (Something about the 33 not fitting down the launch ramp at his new lake home). It has twin 600ci Merlin motors putting out 960 HP each, is impeccably rigged, has a brand new Zeiman trailer, and appears to be in overall excellent condition. They claim the boat spent two weeks at Lake X being dialed in. It We ran the boat up to the 6000 RPM rev limiters at about 3/4 throttle before we ran out of prop at 113 MPH. I'm a bit concerned with what they're telling me. I would think that if this boat spent that kind of time at Lake X with the Merc folks, we should not have been banging the rev limiter due to lack of prop.

Anyone input or info on this boat would be greatly appreciated.

I believe the boat was rigged in Columbus, OH at PRI. Performance Research Inc. They advertise in Hot Boat or Powerboat Magazine.

Thanks for the info Sea Ya. Any idea who owned it?

Nice looking boat! I remember reading that the 33 Daytone had a porpoise proble. I don't know if some of them have had bottom work to correct this or not. It seems like there were a few on this board that were discussing the 33 a couple of years ago, but I don't remember for sure what the concensus was.

Gee that was no help at all! I'll look for a thread for you.

I noticed that too at speed. At 95 and above it seemed to "bounce" as opposed to a nice even floating that I've always thaought a big cat should have for a ride. Any 33 Daytona owners out there to give me some input???

Funny! I don't know the Daytona, but the boat behind it was a boat I owned 3 years ago. Cool!!!

http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data...na_Engines.jpg

Here's a pic of the motors. 160 views and still no one knows who owned this baby???

Hey, thats better than...."Oh yeah, we had a gay sex party in the cabin. Those Iraqi prisoner pictures ain't got noth'n on what happened in there.....I am pretty sure we lost a used rubber in there somewhere though"....

But Seriously, that is a Awesome ride!!!!!!!

I and the sales folk agree on that. They estimate 135-140 if propped right. That's why I'm curious if it is true the boat was at Lake X. If so, one would think they could dial it in. If this is the best they could do, maybe there is a handling problem inherent in this hull? Sure would like to know before taking the plunge on this baby.

NNY boat and everything you posted is true. No expense spared. Very fussy owner who needed to downsize. So the "correct" props are missing, is that anything new in the used boat biz?

In regards to the "bounce" ...Eliminator has changed the bottom of the 33' more than once from what I understand, to adress this problem.

Rippem,

This is what I'm discovering. I'm wondering if there is a fix to the problem. For the price they're askig for this boat, Eliminator will not put any more money into it without raising the price accordingly. :(

Call PRI.

Does it have #5 drives? If so, it probably was the boat that Sea Ya saw in Columbus. That boat was originally rigged in Columbus with Bravos and then #5s. The owner had the bulkhead moved forward at the factory for increased engine space. The owner was very particular about every detail of the boat. That boat had a bounce problem at one time, but I don't know if it was fixed or not. I have seen other 33's that run flat.

I believe when it had the bravos and 572na or 600na inch motors, it ran in the 115 - 120 range.

It had a really nice aluminum trailer under it and I am surprised it has a new one.

Ditto on that.

The 33 Daytona my dealer had with 500's and boxes ran a consisently in the 95-98mph range. He never said anything about it porpoising.

more correct info from rbtnt. It must have had some incredible midrange throttle with those small wheels. :D That boat is a '98 correct? I went out in a 33' w 502EFI's and straight Bravos then, that ran damn near 80 in a nasty 4'-5' shallow lake chop. I almost bought one. There were one/two later incarnations of the 33', I believe, with faster, better handling bottoms. I think Eliminator really struggled with bottom layout and CG on the 33' Daytona. I will try to pass the man along your e-mail adress in the next day or two. Good Luck. :)

Go over to www.proroc.com and check out their used 33' eliminator. Rolf says it runs 118 with 575s. With 960s, this boat should rock! Here is the link: http://www.proroc.com/eliminator.htm

Thanks all for the input.

rbtnt, Yes, this is the boat that did have bravos, and now has #5's on it. They also mentioned the rear bulkhead/seat being moved forward for the bigger engines, which limits cockpit space for such a big boat.

Rippem,

I too am thinking it is a cg problem, especially with the big arse motors sitting in the rear. There is a tunnel tab on the boat, which helps it roll over when coming on plane. Perhaps what it needs is a bit of down tab when at speed to keep the nose down??? Your right, the midrange was incredible! From 30 to warp speeds in no time flat!!!

I'm sure this all can be resolved by some seat time in the boat. If I'm lucky enough to talk with the previous owner, he may be able to shed some light on the handling characteristics of this boat and answer any concerns I have about propping it. Now, it's just about the money... :eek:

Lavyman, check your PM's RPM

I think they worked on the air horns and the notches in the back on that boat.

I have a friend with a 33 Daytona with 572 blower motors and #6s, it runs ~ 140 anytime he wants. This boat has never bounced.

I'm putting the two parties in touch. To clear the air...the former owner told me earlier tonight 128 mph and change @5900-6000 at Lake X and the boat does not bounce. Said the CG as measured was almost perfect @ the front seat backs. Noted this was a heavy boat both in lay-up and every doo-dad known to man. He told me what the boat weighed and I forgot, (too many night shifts). We all know how critical the correct props are on a piece like this...and apparently they are "missing" from the package! Wanted to put some more facts up. ;)

Doc John on our lake has one and he has the same porpoising problem with his.
It does run like a raped ape however. He maxs out around 115.

Rippem,

Got the PM. Thanks for the hookup. I'll call him to get the full, straight scoop. I knew I could could on the brotherhood to come through on this one. The internet is an amazingly powerful tool!

I actually got to talk with the previous owner on the phone a few nights ago. He was able to answer all my questions, and much more! As it turns out the boat did spend three weeks at Lake X. I told the owner the conditins and drive settings....His response was, "NO! NO! NO! Way too much trim!" As it turns out we were putting way too much positive trim on the drives, which he readily admitted will cause the porpoising. He said to set the trim at #2 and forget it. Smooth sailing!

As far as the props and speed, he said it sounds like the props on the boat are the correct ones. They are labbed Merc cleavers dialed in at Lake X. The boat was weighed there and came out at a whopping 10,100 pounds DRY! He said it is one of the heaviest Daytonas out there due to all the stuff he added. Just the seats alone weigh a friggin' ton. The back seat took five guys to lift into the boat. He said the boat will run 125 on GPS all day long, but not any faster due to the extra bulky weight. He said there is a very slight hopping when at top speed on very smooth water, but add some decent lake chop to the lake and it goes away and the ride is like floating on a cloud. With the current setup properly jetted for the desert heat/elevation he is positive the boat should be able to still run 125.

The guy was obviously in loves with this boat and truly did not want to give it up. He went on and on talking about his "baby" and was very proud of it. It just would not fit down the launch ramp at his new home on a river in upstate NY. He was forced to downsize to the 27 Daytona. (Poor bastard!)

So, I think it time to talk seriously with Eliminator. Got an appointment for Friday AM.