Those kayak paddling Einsteins
 

Dodged a couple of those freaking granola chewing parasites this evening.

All those kayaks out at dusk without lights bobbing in the middle of the Lake. I know your cheap asses nature loving bark chewing nature might not let you buy destructive non environmentally friendly batteries but burning a little stored electricity in the form of a light bulb will feel better than a 5 ton, 80MPH boat with labbed props running over your dumb ass in the troff of a wave at dusk.

I mean these dumb-asses surely didn't invent the button with four holes in it! Jeez then when an accident happens it's our fault because we had the foresightedness to have lights and power where those pot smoking dough heads were half drowned getting a bobbing buzz on!

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I have a kayak, but I'd never take it out in open water or a channel, especially at night...with or without lights.

But, you're right. Run 'em over and the finger gets pointed at us big, bad power-boaters.

D. Ocean
Pompano Beach, FLA

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Around here they use the rivers and large creeks, if they are on a lake I would think they need to stay close to shore. should be illegal to be out in Kayak at night

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I was thinking the same thing, that it is illegal to be out at night unless the boat in question has the proper lights. I know that is the law in Michigan, and I thought it might be a Coast Guard reg; in other words, it should apply everywhere.

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They paddle out in the middle here also. They are not verry smart.you would never see them at speed and in waves.
Hope to god you havent had any beers if ya hit one. Life over and its there fault.Should be against the law for them to be far from the edge.

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Any boat in US waters a night is required by US CG to have lights.

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I'm positive that those rules will make them feel better when they ding my props! They have speed limits on the roads also...

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Just remember one thing

boats without mechanical power have the RIGHT OF WAY :(

Sail boats, fishing boats, canoes and yes even kayaks have the right of way over ANY boat with mechanical power. :(

Now as far as the dusk timing goes, maybe they were on a suicide mission :)
I and another friend almost ran over one on a northern MN lake several years back.
He was out in the middle in wind produced waves of at least 2feet+
Worse part about it his kayak was BLUE???:( he blended in with the water and waves that we did not see him.
Needless to say he got swamped. Should have been lucky we both swerved otherwise he would have been mulch.

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The problem that we have is that there is a rental fleet of them in Essex. They will cross the river instead of all together one at a time end to end like a line of ducks. When you come around the corner there they are and there is NO PLACE to go. I just aim for a gap and hope that the one in front paddles like a Mother F-er and the one in back back paddles. Hey they have every right to be out there like us but they should use some common sence!!! I am fairly sure that those damn glo sticks allthough better then nothing DO NOT work as a legal navigation light. They make legal ones with suctoin cups on them.

Jon

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bicycles have the right of way too, but you don't want to see one in the passing lane on the interstate. :eek:

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Maybe you should post this up on a tree hugging kayak forum somewhere.

Oh... wait... nevermind. I expect they don't use computers either. :rolleyes:


Frank

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Same thing happened to me last summer blue kayak, blue jacket, 2 ft waves.
I was 1 mile from shore. It was close and when it does happen and some one get killed
it will be the fault of the no good power boater. The kayaks have no need to be out that far. What can they see out there? They should be restricted to the no wake zones or have a law that says out of the wake zone is at your own risk. Bad subject
for me I would hate for a mishap to mess up a good day.
Ed

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Or get them to have a whip or something with a flag. Divers do that and you rarely miss those.

It's just a question of time and one of those will get creamed, literally.

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Missed an unlighted canoe by about 4 ft. on LOTO. Didn't see him till I was past him. 11:30 at night, no moon, and I was only running 35mph. Idiot!

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Here's an idea since this is an offshore boating forum.......boat off shore!!! :D :D

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now that is a good idea GLH, time to lobby for a flag on Kayaks,,,, GOD knows they lobby for spped limits & Mufflers on boats. :D

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They could at least wear a orange helmet. .See how close you can hug that turn buoy :D

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i would almost have to swing back around to give the guy a little boating education. that is absolutly insane to be out at that time in an unlit boat. we get that alot on our river here too. there is a few islands that they seem to always be around, defenetly have to keep an eye out for them.

while we are on the subject of boat lighting. one of my biggest pet peeves is poorly lighted boats. i do alot of running at night and i cant believe the boats out there with crappy or almost non-exhistant lights. absolutely stupid and no excuse for it. or even better yet the dip sh!t running with his docking lights on. thats another good one :mad:

sorry for the rant but this kinda stuff is why accidents happen and somehow its our fault for being in a powerboat. yep . . . that kinda stuff and a midget with a candle just burn my a$$ :crazy:

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Paddle-Fest this weekend in Milwaukee. I know GLH will want to tow his big kitty 1000 mi to attend this event. Perfect timing too!

Due to all the rain we've had, the deep tunnel sewer projects have dumped million's of gallons of overflow sewage into the lake!! YUUKK!! :et:

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Just run em over and turn em into manatee food! Oh wait, manatees are vegans! Never mind. It was probably bad advice anyway! :)

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GLH, You nailed that right on the head!
Those screwballs go out on Lake Mich. right into the thick of heavy boat traffic...almost ran a few down over the years.
Don't get me started on the waverunners in front of the Marinas....

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That's a whole 'nother discussion :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Well my rant made the papers yesterday!

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/b...nday/4000h.htm

"Be safe on the lake

Kayaks have become a very popular way of exploring the lake and it seems like an enjoyable physical activity.

We own a boat and use it on Lake Champlain from time to time; we see a lot of kayakers at various locations around the lake. As a non-mechanically powered craft they have priority over bigger crafts and we maneuver accordingly.

Unfortunately, it has happened very often in the last few years that we, along with a lot of our fellow boaters, have seen kayaks out either at dusk or even night without any lights. This is a breach of navigational rules, but even more serious, it is a tragedy waiting to happen.

Another problem that arises is when the waves are more than one or two feet, and this happens relatively often. Those kayaks become extremely hard to see in the motion of the waters even in broad daylight.

We have seen some kayakers with small whips with flags attached, and easily identifiable colors. This makes them a lot more noticeable and reduces the probability of an accident.

Although I think those requirements are not mandated, it does help in identifying those smaller crafts out on the expanse of the lake.

Make no mistake, it is the bigger crafts' responsibility to avoid the kayaks. And, in an accident, if all rules had been observed by the kayaker, it would be the other boater's fault. But at that point, will that particular kayaker care?

From the number of close calls I have been told about or witnessed with both sailboats and powerboats or watching the ferry pull in and out, I am afraid it is only a matter of time before a tragedy strikes.

This will then produce legislation that is reactive instead of proactive and unfortunately someone will be in grief and a lot of lives will be ruined. I hope I'm wrong.
G.L. HARVIE
Burlington "

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Great letter. That's why they printed it. Didn't notice any mention of






42' BAD ASS CIGARETTE TIGER with 2 SUPER CHARGED 600HP's. :eek: :D

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Nice write-up GLH, good arguments.

I wish for the sake of those poor poeple that they would wise up.

Simply knowing that there are boats under power on a particular body of water, regardless of right of way, would keep me from kayaking anywhere near there.

The only loser in that game is the kayaker. I'm sure it's enjoyable and good excercise, but come on, they can barely be seen. There's no need to be more than a couple hundred feet from the shore in such small craft. It's akin to some brainiac swimming across a shipping channel.

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GL,
Great job in the paper yesterday. How come no mention of freaking granola chewing parasites?

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The editor would be offended and never publish it. :D :D :D

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No lights is really stupid. Might as well leave the life jacket at the dock too because it's not going to do anything helpful except making the body easy to find.

There was a 35' performance boat one night coming into dock at a marina. I knew the guy from poker runs and he seemed pretty level headed. We were partying on the dock, about midnight and here comes the goof with no running lights. I help him tie up and ask what the problem is with the nav lights.

He said, " it's much easier to see at night when your pupils aren't dialated from all the running lights." I've had a few, and nicely said that is dangerous and you should see your eye doctor. Just can't believe some people.

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I have to put my smoking jacket and pipe on when I write these! :D

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Well put GL. Hopefully something can be done to avoid a problem.

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I would not have know it was the same person that started this post as the paper until I saw your name. That pipe must of had some good stuff in it.

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Just an expression Ed anyone that knows me, knows I would never touch the pipe your referring too. Let me re-phrase then :D.

"I have to put my smoking jacket and get the sniffter with Remy Martin "XO" when I write these!"

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That's not entirely true. The law has it that the "the least maneuverable vessel in the situation" has the right-of-way. For example, it would be unlawful and down right suicidal for that matter, for a sailboat of any size under to sail across the path of a container ship or an aircraft carrier. Believe it or not, that sort of this happens in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia fairly often. The trouble is, that many of these people in sail boats, kayaks, etc., believe that they have the right-of-way since they are not mechanically propelled and will try to exercise that mistaken right. The fact is that most larger offshore performance boats running at low speeds are much less maneuverable than a Kayak - especially a Kayak with no lights at night .

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Forrest I think military and commercial traffic have priority over all but no matter who's right or wrong (as oppose to the way sailors think) navigationally speaking, if someone might have the slightest chance to run into me I am getting out of Dodge. I am not going to smash anything up, go swiming or even at worst go pushing up daisies on a navigation principle.

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speaking of kayaks, on the way back down the channel to the boat launch
Monica was at the wheel :D We came across 6 kayaks taking up the whole channel ABREAST! they were heading out, you would think they could at least think like the rest of the boaters there and stay to the right, but hell no
its like those kids in the mall that walk 8 abreast and expect you to jump out of the way.