Trailer Hitches
 

We are changing our tow vehicle from a pintle hook to a 2 5/8" ball. We were wondering if anyone knows of a ball mount that has a 10-ton rating and fits the 2" receiver on our Ford F-550. We've found a 25,000 lb. ball and our receiver is rated to handle whatever the truck can handle, so all we need is the ball mount so we can make the switch. Any suggestions?

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Thanks,

Pair-a-Dice Racing
www.pair-a-dice-racing.com

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Call Redneck Trailer Supplies #(813)628-0000 they are in Tampa. They deal in HD type trailering supplies.They list a 12,000 lb in their book for the F-350 Super Duty.
Good luck.

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Sorry about that they list 2 5/16 balls to 40,000lb and mounts to 10,000 the solid ones are not in my old catalog

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check out hitchfinders.com

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Are you sure of that? The hitch that came with my dually is only a class 4.

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Check this out
http://schuckhitches.com/

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Go4Broke,
Our F-550's hitch is solid welded to the frame, so it will handle whatever the truck can tow.

Thanks,
Pair-A-Dice

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Ummm... not to sound like a jerk, and I'm sure you've checked out your hitch for your situation (or at least I hope you have), but a hitch being welded to the frame has nothing to do with it's weight rating. I just don't want someone to read this thread and get the wrong idea.

you even have to be careful with custom work by so called pro's. Just because someone can lay a purty bead does not mean they can properly design a hitch. And most truck frames are designed to have bolt on hitches- welding to truck frames is usully a no-no whether its a dually, medium duty or an OTR truck.


Good luck with your ball quest

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Just to clarify the hitch was installed by Tuscany Conversions and it is welded to the frame but it is also bolted. I am assuming that a quality company like Tuscany knows what they're doing.

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Did you try them for the ball? Or did they simply do the install? Sometimes the pintle hook is the only other choice besides 5th wheel conversion.

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I was wondering also... what was wrong with just using the pintle hook?....... :confused:

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We are switching from the pintle hook to the ball because it is a tighter connection. There was too much "give and take" with the pintle which made for a bouncy ride. The manufacturer doesn't have a ball mount...figure that out?

Thanks for the replies, hope to see everyone at the first Silver Cup Series Race on June 5th and 6th and at the Oshkosh Thunder Poker Run (www.oshkoshthunder.com) the following weekend. I'll keep looking.

Pair-A-Dice Racing
www.pair-a-dice-racing.com

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try u-haul, that is where I got mine.

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I've got one of those schuck hitches pictuere in post--it is a monster and is extremely well made. I'm interested in selling it if you are interested--I've quit towing my boat.


Poorsche

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I don't have my catalog in front of me but I beleive "redneck trailer supply " ,as stated above ,will have what you want . They are nation wide also . Joe

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PAir-a-dice, I love that trailer . I have a 39' cat that's almost 12' wide and was thinking of doing a trailer like that . what do you think of it so far ? Do you worry about stress or cracks on the sponsons hanging it on it's side ? How wide is your boats beam ? And how wide and tall is it when loaded ? Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested . Hauling 12' wide down the road is not much fun .... Thanks , Joe

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Boot,

Give Randy a call at MTI, he can help you with your questions 636-639-1166

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Pair a dice, try Tom's Trailers in Menomonee Falls, I have a 10,000lb ball mount made by Curt manufacturing in Eau Claire that I bought from them.

When they go to the higher weight rating the ball mount is a solid piece of stock rather than being a tube. If Tom's does'nt have them you could probably Call Curt direct. Sorry I don't have the phone numbers for either of them, but you should be able to get it from information.

See you at the Oshkosh Thunder run.

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Even though the end plates have been welded to the frame what is the weight capacity of the cross beam? I have never seen a 2" hitch that was rated for over 15,000. All the bigger hithches I have seen have been 2 1/2" slug. I am no expert, but I did a fair amount of research as my boat & trailer weigh over 16,000. If I'm wrong please correct me.

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those are great for those thiefs that take our boats they put a small
ball on there, it makes for a quick hook up.

But I have to say they are nice for your personal use too :D

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Madcow, A lot of the receivers that are installed are not bought off the shelf.They are fabricated to fit and carry as much weight as you can put to them. One of the hitches I have uses a 4 1/2"X 4 1/2 x.500" cross beam. There is no rating on it.You will fold the back of the frame rails over before the hitch fails.The truck this hitch is on also has doubled frame rails that go from the rear bumper to about 18" past the front of the rear spring hangers. I have bent the 1/2 or 3/4x 3 flat stock on the 2" square hitch part many times before.I now use a cast iron hitch that I have never bent yet. I have trailered around 42000lb on a 2 5/16 ball and hitch assembly for several years.
The hitch assembly that is used to move Mobile homes is not much different than the one I use or the ones that are fabricated for real trucks that are capable of handling the weight. :D

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I wonder how much Pair a dice weighs boat and trailer total. 12-13000lbs?

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P-A-D,

Why not one of the combo hitches? Still have a pintle available, yet you have the 2-5/16" also.

FWIW, I tow pintles all day every day. The combo units have much less slop than the straight pintles, you might want to try one and see if you like it better than the standard pintle. A pintle is still the strongest, most secure hitch around, I won't give them up for anything. Heck, my motorcycle and car trailers even use them :)

BTW, pricing / inventory not to bad here: http://www.hitchesonline.com/drawbar...q_drawbars.htm

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I found a new company who has a hitch ball mount that is listed to handle 16,000 lbs, and to top it all off, it's adjustable. They claim you don't even have to unhook your trailer either. Their website is www.amazinconcepts.com

Let me know if you need more information. I live in the same town as these guys and could probably hook you up.

Posieman

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Posieman, FYI:

Pair a Dice is done. He is out of boating and racing.

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Rick is a good guy and lives 30 min away from me. His 42 MTI is owned by someone else now. That is a nice rig he had.

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You guys are scaring me.

That MTI, that Steel trailer and fuel are heavier than you think. You may want to hit a scale for the hell of it.

I would not even do a bumper pull. That duallie is borderline mariginal for towing that package.

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Yea, a 5th wheel setup would be the way Id like to go with that setup. Cant comment about the hitch he has, without seeing it, but I dont trust welds. My buddy was driving a 10 wheel dump truck pulling a bobcat trailer. The hitch was mounted to a big steel plate which was welded to the truck frame. I see this on lots of 10wheel dumps. Anyway, while running down the freeway, the entire plate that holds the pintle, and saftey chain loops broke right off, sending the bobcat and trailer towards incoming traffic. My buddy turned the truck and hit the brakes, letting the trailer hit the truck and stop it rather than kill someone. Point is welds tend to break if they were not done right. I have a Mack tractor, the big trucks fifth wheel mounts to the truck frame via bolts. I pull 72,000 loaded daily.

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That truck should have a bigger receiver than 2 inch. It should be 2 1/2 or 3 with a 2 inch insert. That better be or u may not even have a 550. Those pics don't look like a 550.

That trailer is actually like having 2 trailers. One steel frame that rotates on another. which is fine but that thing has to weigh around 5000 lbs. Fuel 8.6 lbs gallon 250 gallons 2150lbs. That is 7150 without the boat. 3900 MTI must weigh 4000lbs unrigged plus 3000 rigged 7000lbs probably heavier than that. that is 14,150lbs. Large ball mounts are off the record made for dump trucks. Like as the earlier post states are welded to the frame. When welded properly the welds are stronger than the metal. In our shop we can tear the parts that are welded out of the metal it is welded to.

We build some exotic trailers as well. Be careful. You should weigh that assembly at a truck stop. We have scales that are free.

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Atwood and Wallace Forge both make flat mount couplers. Once again a dump truck part.